Importing a boat from Europe, Trading Standards Response

[nevis768]

But your post#8 which is what you claim they advised does not say that. They referred you to the Regulations that do not include any exemptions for boats certified to earlier standards. Your claim about exemptions is only in your words unsupported by any official guidance.

That's not what Trading standards say. You've been told that a hundred times but keep posting absolute crap. What part of S36 do you not understand? It's in fairly simple language. I'm inclined to believe them, so there is 2 of us who have phoned them now, and a Yacht broker who says the same.
Have a read of your favourite link
CE & UKCA Categories. A Brief Explanation for Boat Owners | Val Wyatt
In the end it doesn't matter what you think Trading Standards are the prosecuting authority and they have explained the the Legislation.
End of story...................no more absolute nonsense for God's sake.

 

[PaulRainbow]

You obviously didn't read it or you wouldn't have asked about Pre Ce marks which is covered in post 1.

Only in your dreams

 

[billskip]

So until we find a boat owner who has actually been through the process then we do not have a definitive answer.
However some people have checked with the relevant authorities and it seems that they are not interested.

Read post # 83.

 

[Mister E]

Post 83 was not the actual owner so although is a good example it is not definitive.
Two people have phoned but have they got the answers in writing?

 

[billskip]

Post 83 was not the actual owner so although is a good example it is not definitive.
Two people have phoned but have they got the answers in writing?

Why don't you phone them and ask them to put their answer in writing?

 

[nevis768]

Only in your dreams

Really, which actual section of the Act says otherwise?

 

[Mister E]

Why don't you phone them and ask them to put their answer in writing?

Because I like you am not considering purchasing a boat from Europe.

 

[billskip]

Does anybody know who has the authority to test a boat and issue the necessary certificate?
Has one of these UK certificates ever been issued for a re imported boat?
Maybe the "law" is best suited to being misinterpreted, because there is no actual legal body authorised to undertake the examination and issue confirmation of compliance

 

[PaulRainbow]

Does anybody know who has the authority to test a boat and issue the necessary certificate?
Has one of these UK certificates ever been issued for a re imported boat?
Maybe the "law" is best suited to being misinterpreted, because there is no actual legal body authorised to undertake the examination and issue confirmation of compliance

See post #79

 

[PaulRainbow]

Really, which actual section of the Act says otherwise?

From post #1 "Their view of the recent updates to the RCD is that unless you intend to place the yacht you have imported on the market on importation, the CE marking is all that is required."

 

[billskip]

See post #79

Yes I read that, but that was by a Dutch company while uk was still in EU..
My post was UK Certificate.

 

[Tranona]

That's not what Trading standards say. You've been told that a hundred times but keep posting absolute crap. What part of S36 do you not understand? It's in fairly simple language. I'm inclined to believe them, so there is 2 of us who have phoned them now, and a Yacht broker who says the same.
Have a read of your favourite link
CE & UKCA Categories. A Brief Explanation for Boat Owners | Val Wyatt
In the end it doesn't matter what you think Trading Standards are the prosecuting authority and they have explained the the Legislation.
End of story...................no more absolute nonsense for God's sake.

Well they have not explained anything that agrees with what you claim. you have failed to post what your contact actually said nor any evidence to support it. The Wyatt is wrong - and it is hardly official.

You claim to have a transcript which you will share - but have failed to do so. Why are you so reluctant?

 

[PaulRainbow]

Yes I read that, but that was by a Dutch company while uk was still in EU..
My post was UK Certificate.

Don't know who does it, never had need for one, but there must be companies out there. It would (i guess) be the same procedure as it's always been for importing a boat from, say, the US.

 

[nevis768]

From post #1 "Their view of the recent updates to the RCD is that unless you intend to place the yacht you have imported on the market on importation, the CE marking is all that is required."

Come on post the legislation which supports your remark..............still waiting

 

[PaulRainbow]

Come on post the legislation which supports your remark..............still waiting

That's not my remark, it's yours.

 

[Tranona]

Does anybody know who has the authority to test a boat and issue the necessary certificate?
Has one of these UK certificates ever been issued for a re imported boat?
Maybe the "law" is best suited to being misinterpreted, because there is no actual legal body authorised to undertake the examination and issue confirmation of compliance

The UK certifying body for pleasure craft is HPI hpivs.com/ce-certification-2/rcr

Lots of information on background to the changes discussed here plus some information for those private people wanting to import boats that do not comply with RCD!!. Clearly states that all private imports that do not comply require a PCA. Some useful information on what is required to convert boats certified to RCD1 to RCD11, notably the requirement for the engine to comply with RCD11

All consistent with the majority view in this thread on what the legislation says.

Does not answer your second question, but would guess a phone call to them might get some idea.

 

[nevis768]

Well they have not explained anything that agrees with what you claim. you have failed to post what your contact actually said nor any evidence to support it. The Wyatt is wrong - and it is hardly official.

You claim to have a transcript which you will share - but have failed to do so. Why are you so reluctant?

I have already posted it and happy to share with anybody who wishes to buy a boat in Europe. But you're obviously not one of them.
What about the other forumite who got the same response from Trading Standards? Have you forgotten about him?
I did try to send it to you but you have disabled private messages, probably because you get too many rude ones about the rubbish you post. Lol, come on Guv you can do better than that. Get a life,,,,,

 

[Tranona]

I have already posted it and happy to share with anybody who wishes to buy a boat in Europe. But you're obviously not one of them.
What about the other forumite who got the same response from Trading Standards? Have you forgotten about him?
I did try to send it to you but you have disabled private messages, probably because you get too many rude ones about the rubbish you post. Lol, come on Guv you can do better than that. Get a life,,,,,

No I have not disabled private messages and I have also given you a private email address so you have no excuse. I have seen the other persons post but it just the same as yours - only his words not anything that sounds remotely official and his proposed purchase seems implausible. He has not chosen to expand on his claims so I think they can be dismissed.

Suggest you read the link in post#116, which I have directed you to in an earlier exchange so you know exactly what is involved in privately importing a boat that does not comply with the latest RCD. Inevitably the process is exactly the same as you have been told many times.

 

[billskip]

The UK certifying body for pleasure craft is HPI hpivs.com/ce-certification-2/rcr

Lots of information on background to the changes discussed here plus some information for those private people wanting to import boats that do not comply with RCD!!. Clearly states that all private imports that do not comply require a PCA. Some useful information on what is required to convert boats certified to RCD1 to RCD11, notably the requirement for the engine to comply with RCD11

All consistent with the majority view in this thread on what the legislation says.

Does not answer your second question, but would guess a phone call to them might get some idea.

Thank you.

 

[nevis768]

The UK certifying body for pleasure craft is HPI hpivs.com/ce-certification-2/rcr

Lots of information on background to the changes discussed here plus some information for those private people wanting to import boats that do not comply with RCD!!. Clearly states that all private imports that do not comply require a PCA. Some useful information on what is required to convert boats certified to RCD1 to RCD11, notably the requirement for the engine to comply with RCD11

All consistent with the majority view in this thread on what the legislation says.

Does not answer your second question, but would guess a phone call to them might get some idea.

More absolute tosh, that's a private company which makes money out of certification of boats which may or may not require it. Privately imported yachts do not require it. What's your connection to that company?