Important announcement: The CB forum is moving

Oh dear God. Are people really this thick?

THE FORUM IS NOT MOVING TO FACEBOOK.

The Classic boat forum is moving to the Chelsea Magazine Company's new Classic Boat website. As the forums have value to advertisers, they're an asset with value, and it looks like the forum was one of the assets sold with the magazine. (If you're not paying for it, you're not the client, you're the product).

As I said above, I would be amazed if the sale didn't include non-compete clauses, including non-compete in forums as well as magazines.

Classis Boat now simply has a facebook page. It's entirely separeate to the forum.

IN THE SAME WAY THAT THE YBW FACEBOOK PAGE IS SEPARATE FROM THIS FORUM. AND THE YW FACEBOOK PAGE IS A _DIFFERENT_ THING THAN THE YW WEBSITE ON YBW. AND THE SAME FOR THE YM FORUM & SITE ON YBW AND FACEBOOK PAGE.

http://www.facebook.com/YachtingBoatingWorld
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Yachting-World/111913865558561
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Yachting-Monthly/8790910699

And guess what. They're all on Twitter as well.

http://twitter.com/#!/yachtingworld
http://twitter.com/#!/ybw
http://twitter.com/#!/yachtingmonthly
 
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Thanks for the explainations. The idea of being on Facebook makes me reach for the chunder bag..
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And when one reads about the DVLA selling drivers deitails to clampers...well, I might be cynical.
 
Keen_Ed said:
Oh dear God. Are people really this thick?
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Far be it for me to criticize your keen modus operandi, but I would quietly suggest that you may wish to review your current marketing strategy particularly in the manner of which you describe individuals, whom are some of the contributors to the success (as it may be) of the Classic Boat/Classics forum, and who are the very reasons that the advertisers will hand over funds to the company, and whom they also wish to encourage (they say they want them to 'befriend' you on FaceBook) to provide support for them.

Are you part of the Classics team?


It does seem that to a significant number of individuals the idea of contributing/discussing/etc on Facebook is abhorrent.
 
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And where _on_earth_ do you get the idea that I have any connection to ybw/yw/ym/cmc/classic boat?

I am completely unconnected in any way (apart from being a reader) to all of them.
 
Keen_Ed said:
Oh dear God. Are people really this thick?

THE FORUM IS NOT MOVING TO FACEBOOK.

The Classic boat forum is moving to the Chelsea Magazine Company's new Classic Boat website. As the forums have value to advertisers, they're an asset with value, and it looks like the forum was one of the assets sold with the magazine. (If you're not paying for it, you're not the client, you're the product).

As I said above, I would be amazed if the sale didn't include non-compete clauses, including non-compete in forums as well as magazines.

Classis Boat now simply has a facebook page. It's entirely separeate to the forum.

IN THE SAME WAY THAT THE YBW FACEBOOK PAGE IS SEPARATE FROM THIS FORUM. AND THE YW FACEBOOK PAGE IS A _DIFFERENT_ THING THAN THE YW WEBSITE ON YBW. AND THE SAME FOR THE YM FORUM & SITE ON YBW AND FACEBOOK PAGE.

http://www.facebook.com/YachtingBoatingWorld
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Yachting-World/111913865558561
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Yachting-Monthly/8790910699

And guess what. They're all on Twitter as well.

http://twitter.com/#!/yachtingworldLifGDetkCbE
http://twitter.com/#!/ybw
http://twitter.com/#!/yachtingmonthly
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It's like.......

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The name of the forum on this site is Classics not even Classic Boat. It would be a great shame if it had to move. I like many others won't bother to re-register, I don't have a classic boat. We do however subcribe to Classic Boat (and PBO) I like looking at the pictures and the projects.

Possibly time to stop my subscription.
 
It seems we can take it or leave it in regards to facebook BUT I resent very strongly to my posts on these forums being sold like some sort of commodity especially with out any form of consultation.
I have posted HERE not on another site, I have an interest in classic boats but my overall interest is boating in general.
I do wonder if copyright comes into play on this occasion as my post have been sent from one place to another !!!???

:mad::mad::mad::mad:
 
This forum isn't provided out of the kindness of the YBW accounting department. It exists to make money for ipc, by bringing people to the website using those visits to sell advertising.

If you're using a service for which you're not paying, then you're not the customer - you're the product. And as such, you get treated as any other product - sold to the highest bidder.

Don't like it? Fair enough. Don't post.
 
Keen_Ed said:
This forum isn't provided out of the kindness of the YBW accounting department. It exists to make money for ipc, by bringing people to the website using those visits to sell advertising.

If you're using a service for which you're not paying, then you're not the customer - you're the product. And as such, you get treated as any other product - sold to the highest bidder.
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By being attracted to the forum (hosted by party A at a charge to Party B ) to post AND hopefully (by party B) we read the advertisements of Parties B to possibly buy what they are touting, are we not the customers?
 
BillyBlue said:
We will be moving all your conversations, threads and user names to the new site next week.
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As a matter of interest, how do you square that with the Privacy Statement to which I agreed when I signed up (my emphases):

If you consent we may sell, rent or trade your personal information to third parties for their marketing purposes. Such third parties will be carefully selected and registered with the Information Commissioner.

We may also pass your personal information to third parties to enable them to process a request, order or service; or to supply you with a prize in the event you win a competition or in order to obtain professional advice.

We may provide anonymous, non-personally identifiable aggregate information to advertisers and our business partners, including information relating to sales and web-usage, to enable us to sell advertising and monitor the efficacy of our business partnerships. We may also pass such statistical information onto reputable third parties for onward sale.

It is possible that IPC Media could merge or be acquired by another business. If this happens we may share the information that relates to you. You will be sent notice of such an event.​

I don't see anything there which allows IPC to send my personal data to another company without either having been taken over as a whole or without asking my consent.

Of course you'll be aware that use of personal data other than for the reason for which it was originally collected is a criminal offence under the Data Protection Act...
 
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Keen_Ed said:
This forum isn't provided out of the kindness of the YBW accounting department. It exists to make money for ipc, by bringing people to the website using those visits to sell advertising.

If you're using a service for which you're not paying, then you're not the customer - you're the product. And as such, you get treated as any other product - sold to the highest bidder.

Don't like it? Fair enough. Don't post.
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Nonsense, read what Umber says
 
This forum isn't provided out of the kindness of the YBW accounting department. It exists to make money for ipc, by bringing people to the website using those visits to sell advertising.
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Errrrrrrm unless you are logged in and then there are no adverts :rolleyes:

What's your point anyway mate ? You seem to think this is fine :confused:
The classic forum has been part of YBW for many years and one i look in on all the time as do many others .
To be told we are going to have to go somewhere else to follow our own contributions to this YBW part of the forum is , to be honest , taking the piss .
I also think that selling a forum where people give free advice is taking the piss .
 
davidpbo said:
The name of the forum on this site is Classics not even Classic Boat.
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It used to be Classic Boat, but got renamed at the time of the sale. I presumed this was because it was going to continue to operate here, but obviously couldn't keep the name of a magazine that IPC don't own any more.

Transferring the history suggests it might not be continuing though, which would be a pity. I don't intend to use the new forum - I browse this one on my way between the PBO and YM forums, moving it to the metaphorical other side of town will kill that passing trade.

Pete
 
I enjoy reading this forum even though I will never buy a "Classic Boat". I won't be registering anwhere else. Hope YBW keep this forum, or something with a different name that is identical in content. Perhaps we could have an "Old Boat Owners Forum"?? (with no age limit on anything!!
 
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