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I\'m off on my hols

I'm just about to get in my car and drive over to Porthmadog for a week-and-a-half of boating, eating & drinking at the yacht club, enjoying the Regatta at the yacht club and generally getting my head out of work for once. I'll be back on the 1st - so have a good time to all my cyber friends on MoBo Chat.

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Re: welshness

it was called "Portmadoc" when i went there 30 years ago. Likewise, the capital of china was called Peking. Can't we use the angliscised names if speaking english? The french call London "londres" and we don't call Rome "Roma". So, it's Portmadoc, as in "port haddock", imho.

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Re: I\'m off on my hols

Have a wonderful break from the madhouse /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

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Re: welshness

Well now - where do I start??

The locals re-named it Porthmadog in the 70's because they thought that it would be better if the town wasn't named after the "Englishman" that built the town and the causway (called the Cob) leading to it. So they re-named it after a legendary Welsh giant called Madog.

What they failed to realise was that William Maddocks who did all this was in fact a Welshman himself from Llanrwst.

So they wasted their time and effort!!

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Re: welshness

hm. It was definitely called portmadoc in the 60's and i fink the "renaming" is just "using the welsh name more prominently" cos you can't be on the councils etc if you can't blether on in welsh these days

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Re: welshness

Ewch ymlaen.


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Re: welshness

ah yes, but if you talk to any of the locals they call it Porthmadog and it is said very softly if that makes sense. Portmadoc is quite harsh on the tongue; and to be honest if the locals prefer Porthmadog then really we should respect that, wouldn't you say, I personally prefer it.

I hate the way the English bastardise other nations names and place names, it is like those who travel to resorts and not eating any of that 'foriegn muck', on returning home telling all who can be arsed to listen just how seaoned and cultured they are for traveling to such far away places.........

Oh gawd I am off on Friday for a fortnights sailing, no offence to TCM et al, I need this break, Southern Ireland beckons, I am getting cabin fever.

have a great week Dave, the weather forecast seems very favourable, although a little more wind over the weekend would be nice /forums/images/icons/smile.gif

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Re: foreign place names

it is nothing to do with xenophobia. All nations call other places by a variety of names. As the example, the french call England "Angleterre" and they call Moscow "Moscou" (i think). Whereas we call it Moscow, yet the russians call it Moskva. At some time in the eighties, I think the BBC started using the local names for some places. The general ruls seemed to be that European names stay anglicised, whereas for place names of touchier countries (wales, china for starters) they use the local pronunciation.

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Re: foreign place names

yes agreed, when I posted that last night I realised it sounded very arsey, I should not add to this forum when in that kind of mood. Appologies if any offense taken.

I like the Welsh language, although I am English. I work in Wales as well as play, I would like to learn Welsh, but it is not a course offered in any of my local colleges, working shifts does not help night-school either. I don't think it is a language I could learn from home study, too many words need explaining and pronunciation, it seems they add lots of odd letters to spell a word they are not entirely sure how should be spelt.

I try to say Pwllheli as the welsh, but when I say it to people in England they look blankly at me until I say it anglicised Piffheley

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Re: foreign place names

well we won't solve this one. BUT you could help with pronunciation of the p-place. I always said "P'th-elly" - will this do? if it is too hard to write, then soddit i will look for a port somewhere near abersock and then someone else can say it first...

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