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A word of caution,

Some of the marinas in the area have a policy of charging commission on any "contractor" work done on your own boat in the yard. It may be worth moving the boat before getting someone in..
 
Tomahawk said:
A word of caution,

Some of the marinas in the area have a policy of charging commission on any "contractor" work done on your own boat in the yard. It may be worth moving the boat before getting someone in..
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As long as your contractor does not arrive in a big van with obvious advertising plastered all over it, who is to know?
 
OR4751 said:
As long as your contractor does not arrive in a big van with obvious advertising plastered all over it, who is to know?
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Humm, yes well just might be that any other Marina might know man ? from working at other Marina, but the again, we all have 'friends' that work somewhere, do not we?

Re Marinas and Boat Yards charging a 'fee' against berth holders if an 'outside' contractor is 'used'. Well as far I experienced this is so, except if the Marina /Boat Yard in question does not have their own facilities on offer. But then again, as an aside and drift, I know that a certain Marina insisted on a berth holder using their facilities for applying antifouling, well the berth holder ran a successful Building Company, and after the antifouling had been applied upon inspection it was declared unsatisfactory, so the Berth Holder bought in his men (as friends?) on a Sunday (as Marina Management were not on site) to do a proper job before his boat was launched. Ho hum, job done :-) payment for a job not well done, don't think so :-)
 
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OR4751 said:
As long as your contractor does not arrive in a big van with obvious advertising plastered all over it, who is to know?
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I think it is more to do with Elf & Safety, if a non yard contractor does work oh your boat without the knowledge of the yard then injures himself who is liable?
 
sailorman said:
How could the yard be responsible unless the contractor was using their equipment or was injured by a yardie whilst the yardie was working
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Never said yard was responsible just asking the question on who would be liable. I am not an expert but would suspect boat owner would be as most marinas state in their contract that you must clear with them before outside contractor can do any work.
 
tidclacy said:
Never said yard was responsible just asking the question on who would be liable. I am not an expert but would suspect boat owner would be as most marinas state in their contract that you must clear with them before outside contractor can do any work.
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See jfm`s ( mobo forum ) concerns about contractor ins when on your boat. the vessel owner could be liable is he damages himself under your employ
 
As a contractor, I've found that some marina/boatyards charge, others can't be bothered, and one or two insist that all work goes through them.

I have to toe the company's line, otherwise I might not be able to visit any potential customers. Telling fibs is not an option.
 
michael_w said:
As a contractor, I've found that some marina/boatyards charge, others can't be bothered, and one or two insist that all work goes through them.

I have to toe the company's line, otherwise I might not be able to visit any potential customers. Telling fibs is not an option.
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As another contractor, same here
 
sailorman said:
How could the yard be responsible unless the contractor was using their equipment or was injured by a yardie whilst the yardie was working
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I'm afraid there have been examples, not just in the marine business, of the owners of the HSE taking enforcement action against businesses where a contractor working on their site has suffered or caused an injury to someone. There are basically two routes to liability, one as the occupier and the other a notion referred to as vicarious liability.

Any business which does not take steps to protect themselves from this liability is heading for a fall and will soon have a poor reputation with their local HSE inspector. A minimum is that the yard should require itinerant contractors working on their site to demonstrate that they have adequate insurance cover for damages to themselves, their customers and any third parties, including the owner of the premises. If the occupier becomes aware that anybody is working on his premises without having demonstrated adequate cover, and does not stop the work and instruct the contractor to leave site immediately, the occupier automatically puts himself in a position of vicarious liability, simply through that knowledge. The approach of both Michael W and Erbas is necessary, correct and welcome because of that

Of course, none of this requires the occupier to levy a charge, that is the choice of the marina or yard. In the case of some, it's not a matter of can't be bothered, because charge or no they must go through the bother of checking out the contractor's insurance - it would be little more bother to give him a bill. The policy is more likely determined by some consideration for what the customers (berth holders) would prefer. If you want to know the policy at your marina or yard, just ask next time you're in the office.

Peter
 
Humm, suggest, from experience, that Marinas like to Charge any Contractor or make life difficult, in order to either (or both) make a 'buck or 2' force Berth Holders to use their (Marina) facilities and workshops.
There of course Marinas and Boat yards that do not have their own on site facilities so might be easier to get your own preferred contractor in to do jobs.
Other wise move your boat to a Public place /berth /Quay / Yacht Club and your contractor can perform jobs there. :-) hopefully
I worked at a Marina where they stated that the slipway, where a craft could come in on the tide to Dry Out for simple tasks like Antifouling and scrubbing off or just Hull inspection was not insured for such purposes. But their Lift was available, at a cost URG
 
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Capt Popeye said:
Humm, suggest, from experience, that Marinas like to Charge any Contractor or make life difficult, in order to either (or both) make a 'buck or 2' force Berth Holders to use their (Marina) facilities and workshops.
There of course Marinas and Boat yards that do not have their own on site facilities so might be easier to get your own preferred contractor in to do jobs.
Other wise move your boat to a Public place /berth /Quay / Yacht Club and your contractor can perform jobs there. :-) hopefully
I worked at a Marina where they stated that the slipway, where a craft could come in on the tide to Dry Out for simple tasks like Antifouling and scrubbing off or just Hull inspection was not insured for such purposes. But their Lift was available, at a cost URG
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There are also marinas which have their own facilities but do not charge other contractors for working on their site, but just require the contractor to demonstrate adequate insurance. However, if the contractor wishes to use the marinas slipway, or any other equipment that's a completely different matter.

I repeat, if any owner is curious as to the policy of the marina or yard where they keep their boat, just ask them.
 
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