How to sell

Pitterpatter said:
...When selling our last boat, which we did ourselves, we had a lot of tyre kickers from boats and outboards, Apolloduck, etc. Every prospect from there seemed to be expecting a mega deal. Eventually we sold to a buyer who found the boat on Yachtworld...PP
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Yachtworld is a brokers only site though...
 
roblpm said:
I have just started looking for a boat myself and am surprised by the poor quality of the brokers websites (maybe boatshed excluded). As before I trek across the country to look at something I would at least think I would need to see many high res photos (just looked at one boat that looked ok on the blurry photos but had a mould problem!!), a decent inventory and a bit of background about where the boat has been, who has owned it etc.

Anyway there is a guy who posts on these forums who I have no connection with but has done some websites for other people in his marina and seems to have a low cost methodology for privately selling boats http://boatselling.wordpress.com/

He posts as V1701 btw
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That would be me...:)

There's Help, advice & useful links on the site in my signature for you to DIY or I can do one for you, example here:

http://beneteau423.moonfruit.com/
 
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you could consider sailing the summer then entering it in the second hand boat show at Kip in October. Its a focused event with people who are actually looking for boats and if well presented it will stand out from the usual dross and should be the sort of boat that sells to the crowds (ok folk) that attend. I have no connection but its where I started when I went looking for a boat some 7 years ago now. Its a bigger event now.
 
well said, and so true
doris said:
I see the usual cynical and sarcastic old fa*ts are out and about.
With the plethora of ways of selling boats these days I would have thought the OP has asked a perfectly reasonable question. Hopefully there might just be some intelligent input rather than the cack so far.
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roblpm said:
I have just started looking for a boat myself and am surprised by the poor quality of the brokers websites (maybe boatshed excluded). As before I trek across the country to look at something I would at least think I would need to see many high res photos (just looked at one boat that looked ok on the blurry photos but had a mould problem!!), a decent inventory and a bit of background about where the boat has been, who has owned it etc.
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For proper photos of boats look at http://www.yachtsnet.co.uk/ - I am biased though as I run it. There are only two other brokers in the UK that I know of that genuinely produce decent details and photos.
 
Sounds very interesting. One thing that I always wonder about is how do people find a listing such as your example below without first of all knowing the address and where is the information and photos stored? I will of course look at your website.

V1701 said:
That would be me...:)

There's Help, advice & useful links on the site in my signature for you to DIY or I can do one for you, example here:

http://beneteau423.moonfruit.com/
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Nicks son miles stratton is from the same mould as his father and i would thouroughly recommend him , miles is running the show with schmitt at kip and they have office running at rhu , would be my first port of call as have been in past .

A broker in my experience will recoup the extra charge for his commission , and life is easier for all allround .
 
markhomer said:
Nicks son miles stratton is from the same mould as his father and i would thouroughly recommend him , miles is running the show with schmitt at kip and they have office running at rhu , would be my first port of call as have been in past .

A broker in my experience will recoup the extra charge for his commission , and life is easier for all allround .
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I have worked with Nick Stratton and Miles too. Miles is a like his dad, a thoroughly decent chap.

jwilsons photos are excellent.

...and I hope he likes mine too :) http://www.jryachts.com/boat-details?boatid=511763

Don't forget when selling a yacht, a full service professionally qualified yacht broker does far more than just advertising.

Its his contacts, time spent on viewings, legal and contractual work, finance/client account facillities and post survey negotiations where he really earns his fee.

Best of luck with it.
 
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Al Dickson said:
I would recommend Tony Richards at Holy Loch Brokerage
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I've only just spotted this as I haven't checked the forum much recently. I'm getting ready to return to Galicia, no clothes packed yet, just 39kgs. of boat bits. :D

I believe that Tony has moved on now and the brokerage business has just transferred to Swordfish Marine based next door at Holy Loch marina. We used to keep our boat there and he did seem to sell a surprising number of boats and I think that he was cheaper than most others in the area. I suspect that he might have transferred boats elsewhere before Swordfish decided to take it over as they only have a few boats on the web-site. I believe that they are very keen to build boat sales so might offer a good deal.

http://www.swordfishmarine.com/

DIY web-site worked well when I sold our last boat but we just beat the economy downturn. However, I'd certainly try it again. It only works if the site is easy to find via search engines. Not too difficult if you are selling something that isn't very common (i.e It wouldn't work well for a family car). Our boat came up at No.1 in most search engines when looking for "Southerly 95", "Southerly 95 for sale", "lift-keel yacht" and so on. In fact, it still appears on first search page even after hiding it away below my current web-site and tweaking it slightly. I wasn't bothered as she was re-sold last year and adverts still linked to my site. I must find time to clean it up soon.
 
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I've had very good experience with Clyde Marina/ Sunbird.

One thing- make sure your boat is immaculate with ALL personal items removed. When I have ever been in the market for a boat it amazed and sometimes disgusted me the personal junk folk leave lying around when they are trying to sell a boat... One otherwise OK boat got rejected in seconds due to the stale smell of piss in the bog- and the can of WD40 in the microwave.
 
uxb said:
I've had very good experience with Clyde Marina/ Sunbird.

One thing- make sure your boat is immaculate with ALL personal items removed. When I have ever been in the market for a boat it amazed and sometimes disgusted me the personal junk folk leave lying around when they are trying to sell a boat... One otherwise OK boat got rejected in seconds due to the stale smell of piss in the bog- and the can of WD40 in the microwave.
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+1
 
castoffandgone said:
Sounds very interesting. One thing that I always wonder about is how do people find a listing such as your example below without first of all knowing the address and where is the information and photos stored? I will of course look at your website.
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You need to drive traffic to your site by linking to it from as many places as possible, boaty & non-boaty. Mister Google will in time find your site as well, depending on how much work you put into it & other factors (very simplistic explanation). One of my sites was for a Miura 31, not many about so if you Google "Miura 31" the first result is the site that I made. But if you Google Beneteau Oceanis 423 the site I made won't be anywhere in the results. I think the point is people wouldn't just go Googling for the boat they want to buy, they'd look at boat sales websites, so the more of them you have an advert (linking to your website) on the better...
 
As regards the OP, I paid for an up-to-date survey (and completed any recommendations) before advertising our boat for sale. It re-assures any prospective buyers that it is worthwhile travelling to view and also cuts out any negotiations that begin along the lines of, " I don't like the look of that...(insert).....!"
That all said, price the boat to sell.
Good luck.
 
davidej said:
If the OP invitation to "PM me" isnt intended to solicit offers , then I am a Dutch uncle.

So abuse me all you wish - but in Dutch please.
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Would you make an offer on a boat without seeing it, no idea of equipment or condition, no survey etc etc?

I certainly did not read the post in the same way as you.
 
jonic said:
Really?

I pay an awful lot of money each month for that, how is it being circumvented?
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So do I pay every month: boats can only go on via a subscribing company. The only way I can see is if a broker offered to put someone's boat on Yachtworld as a favour, or for a fixed up-front fee, but I hope no broker would do that, as he is then putting his reputation on the line for someone else's details/photos/correct documentation/honesty.
 
i sold my 2006 bav 30 in Nov 2012 no problem,(3 WEEKS) i could have saved fees by using a cheaper broker (but not sale the yacht) so i went to Clipper marine , even though IM based in Poole. i owned her for 2 years and had lots fun sailing with family and friends, the only reason for selling was to get a larger yacht.

Do you intend to buy another yacht? when i sold mine two years after purchase some of the yachts for sale were still for sale two years later! and now still for sale!

IF YOU WANT SELL IT, PUT IT IN THE SOUTH/SOLENT, and it will sell, put it with the Bavaria agents, they have people wanting for small Bavarias all the time, and be REALISTIC ABOUT COST. good luck
 
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