How much for a night on a mooring buoy!!!!

dunedin said:
Quite right. I appreciate that many folks will have smaller boats and many run on a tight budget.

But I do find it amazing and outrageous how some folks with big expensive boats moan about paying a small mooring fee - and will often make specific actions to avoid paying the contribution to the mooring costs

NB. Not aimed at the OP as I don't know the wider circumstances, but £20 for a summer weekend evening in a peak location is arguably a bargain
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The problem is where it is perceived that all yachties must be loaded, and things are priced accordingly.

I think the only mooring I've had to pay for was in Rona, where I didn't grudge a tenner going to help the upkeep of a lovely little island, with top notch landing facilities to boot.
 
A couple of years ago I was astonished to have to pay 75 east Caribbean dollars for two nights on a mooring buoy in Mustique. Outrageous. ;)

To make matters worse, the local post office only had four stamps and I had six postcards to send.
 
OGITD said:
Do you know me? ;)



I would wholeheartedly agree if there were shoreside facilities.

But I only think it fair that you 'big-uns' pay a little more ..... due to wear & tear etc. :eek:
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Bucklers hard ? Toilets, showers,car park,small bit of groceries,chandlery,harbour patrol. Seems quite alot...
 
Resolution said:
To put things into proportion, if you have a yacht that cost £100,000 and has a life expectancy of 20 years, your annual depreciation should be £5,000. Assuming you only sail at weekends, this weekend your depreciation would amount to £96.

By this logic, the mooring and the bottle of rum consumed before bed are mere incidentals.
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Except that my boat, built in 1989, is currently worth rather more pounds than it was originally bought for. Of course, the pounds are worth less! But the depreciation has been negative, not positive.
 
AntarcticPilot said:
Except that my boat, built in 1989, is currently worth rather more pounds than it was originally bought for. Of course, the pounds are worth less! But the depreciation has been negative, not positive.
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There is always an exception to every rule, isn't there? Good on you. My old Sigma 33 was the same over nearly ten years of ownership.

Maybe I should have been more complicated and added in the average annual cost of maintaining your yacht as well.......I stick to my point that £20 for a weekend mooring is small beer in relation to most of the other costs involved in getting on the water.
 
OGITD said:
Use a similar system to Marinas ..... ie charge as per boat length?

My reasoning is that larger boats can potentially place more strain and therefore greater wear on the gear / tackle.

I would suggest:

Up to 20’ £5

21’ – 30’ £10

31 – 40’ £20 etc.
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All the harbours down this way do that already. Dartmouth however charge 150% for multis. They claim it's about extra wear and tear but how my 5 tonner puts more strain on than a 40 ft lead mine weighing twice as much I don't know. I don't go there any more.
 
snowleopard said:
All the harbours down this way do that already. Dartmouth however charge 150% for multis. They claim it's about extra wear and tear but how my 5 tonner puts more strain on than a 40 ft lead mine weighing twice as much I don't know. I don't go there any more.
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Obvious, if you can afford 2 boats glued together of course you can afford it :)
 
When I started looking at this forum one thing was clear. No one complained (much) about the cost. Especially safety equipment. In fact on poster was informed it was 'ungentlemanly' to complain at the cost of sailing. Fair enough. Sadly it seems this does not apply to mooring. £20 for 4 - 6 people for a night sounds like a bargain compared to camping, to be honest. There are some campsites in the SW that charge £25 per night per person. And you have to sleep on the floor!

The irony of someone in a boat worth tens of thousands, that costs thousands to keep and maintain, is filled with hundreds of pounds worth of diesel and is used solely for pleasure complaining at overnight mooring that costs about the same as a good bottle of wine does make me smile.
 
ronsurf said:
When I started looking at this forum one thing was clear. No one complained (much) about the cost. Especially safety equipment. In fact on poster was informed it was 'ungentlemanly' to complain at the cost of sailing. Fair enough. Sadly it seems this does not apply to mooring. £20 for 4 - 6 people for a night sounds like a bargain compared to camping, to be honest. There are some campsites in the SW that charge £25 per night per person. And you have to sleep on the floor!

The irony of someone in a boat worth tens of thousands, that costs thousands to keep and maintain, is filled with hundreds of pounds worth of diesel and is used solely for pleasure complaining at overnight mooring that costs about the same as a good bottle of wine does make me smile.
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What, people pay £25 to sleep on the ground? The irony.
 
ronsurf said:
When I started looking at this forum one thing was clear. No one complained (much) about the cost. Especially safety equipment. In fact on poster was informed it was 'ungentlemanly' to complain at the cost of sailing. Fair enough. Sadly it seems this does not apply to mooring. £20 for 4 - 6 people for a night sounds like a bargain compared to camping, to be honest. There are some campsites in the SW that charge £25 per night per person. And you have to sleep on the floor!

The irony of someone in a boat worth tens of thousands, that costs thousands to keep and maintain, is filled with hundreds of pounds worth of diesel and is used solely for pleasure complaining at overnight mooring that costs about the same as a good bottle of wine does make me smile.
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You sound l;ike an ideal candidate for Commercial Manager for a MDL 'make 'em pay until the pips squeak' Marinas Ltd.

If I paid to anchor, I wouldn't get any sleep, would be too busy fuming about it.
 
Resolution said:
To put things into proportion, if you have a yacht that cost £100,000 and has a life expectancy of 20 years, your annual depreciation should be £5,000. .
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I don't know where you get this logic from. Real depreciation is the cost price less the resell price. Notional accouting depreciation assumes an estimate of the residual value.

I have had my boat for about 25 years and, in monetary terms, it is worth substantially what I paid for it. In economic terms money has devalued since then, but that's another logic, not boat depreciation.
 
snowleopard said:
All the harbours down this way do that already. Dartmouth however charge 150% for multis. They claim it's about extra wear and tear but how my 5 tonner puts more strain on than a 40 ft lead mine weighing twice as much I don't know. I don't go there any more.
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In high winds wouldn't your extra windage be significant?
 
ronsurf said:
When I started looking at this forum one thing was clear. No one complained (much) about the cost. Especially safety equipment. In fact on poster was informed it was 'ungentlemanly' to complain at the cost of sailing. Fair enough. Sadly it seems this does not apply to mooring. £20 for 4 - 6 people for a night sounds like a bargain compared to camping, to be honest. There are some campsites in the SW that charge £25 per night per person. And you have to sleep on the floor!

The irony of someone in a boat worth tens of thousands, that costs thousands to keep and maintain, is filled with hundreds of pounds worth of diesel and is used solely for pleasure complaining at overnight mooring that costs about the same as a good bottle of wine does make me smile.
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People's personal finances and priorities are none of my business, but I can say that the model you suggest does not match my situation at all. I bought my boat when I was relatively affluent and could afford a large cash purchase. I wouldn't have bought her if it had involved finance. So, the capital value of the boat is sunk; unless I sell her it's not an issue. In financial terms, I suppose she represents a fixed asset. Maintenance is, and since changes in my personal situation, I have to count the pennies. Marina charges are a very significant part of my budget; I resent any charges for mooring or berthing beyond that.

Your analogy with "a good bottle of wine" is all very well, but some of us can only afford the supermarket's offering! I've never paid £20 for a bottle of wine (except in a restaurant), and rarely as much as £10.

I am not complaining; I am comfortable with my situation. But to suggest that just because you own a large asset you can automatically afford high prices for mooring/anchoring is simply not true for some of us.
 
Can we please stop discussing and therefore giving people ideas that they can charge

for anchoring! .... :eek:

I know it's an 'uphill-struggle' ..... so someone might have to attempt to educate me on this point .... but! ..... is-it not the case that no-one actually owns the 'Sea-Bed'?
 
OGITD said:
for anchoring! .... :eek:

I know it's an 'uphill-struggle' ..... so someone might have to attempt to educate me on this point .... but! ..... is-it not the case that no-one actually owns the 'Sea-Bed'?
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But unfortunately in the case of Beaulieu river, Edward does!

Quote "Beaulieu River is part of the Beaulieu Estate and is one of the few privately owned rivers in the world."
 
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