stuartwineberg
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Indeed and as we know he polices it very vigorously, although the young lady harbourmaster who nobbled us was charming
How much for a night on a mooring buoy!!!!
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Indeed and as we know he polices it very vigorously, although the young lady harbourmaster who nobbled us was charming
epervier
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As an aside to this discussion, I thought that the rates on the Beaulieu were reasonable, last year on the 'toons was £16 in the marina £32 for a 32' vessel this year, the increase is, according to their published rates, £17 and £30 for the marina so less than last year in the marina. Maybe a sign of the times, Simply Red
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Sans Bateau
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20 quid for the river pontoon is quite reasonable, arguably 20 quid for a buoy in that same area is not exorbitant as you are able to access the shore side facilities easily. But in the same way as there should rightly be an escalator for the size of the boat, so too should there be a similar system in place to account for the distance from those facilities and we were a good 15 -20mins from them by tender. After all, £20 is what I would have been charged in Yarmouth with a selection of pubs, shops and all the entertainment of visiting charter boats.
It is the greed of Beaulieu I find objectionable. I remember many years ago visiting with guests aboard our Sadler 26, we needed a marina berth and were told the only one available was rafted outside a French boat, OK, fair enough. We then learned two things, firstly the French boat was to leave at 4 AM the following morning, and what really annoyed me, we were quoted what seemed like an exorbitant rate for the berth, which when I questioned it was told, "yes, thats the rate for a 36ft boat, because you are taking the space where we could put a 36ftr". By now we had all showered and were starting to settle down for the evening, but no way was I going to stay paying that. Bloody robbing b*****ards!
It is the greed of Beaulieu I find objectionable. I remember many years ago visiting with guests aboard our Sadler 26, we needed a marina berth and were told the only one available was rafted outside a French boat, OK, fair enough. We then learned two things, firstly the French boat was to leave at 4 AM the following morning, and what really annoyed me, we were quoted what seemed like an exorbitant rate for the berth, which when I questioned it was told, "yes, thats the rate for a 36ft boat, because you are taking the space where we could put a 36ftr". By now we had all showered and were starting to settle down for the evening, but no way was I going to stay paying that. Bloody robbing b*****ards!
maxi
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Now you will understand why we never use the Beaulieu, even though I can see it out of the window as I write this, rapacious piracy.
robertj
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discrimination laws are not applicable.
robertj
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the staff are not the problem its the stupid decision makers who feel the cash cow should be milked more.
Fowey for one the staff are brilliant!
A friendsailed down from the solent stopped off in salcombe then onto Fowey then to Falmouth, mentioned the ridiculous prices and has altered his passage plan to avoid both on the return trip.
people will vote with their feet but afraid it may come too late for the staff when cost cutting will ensue. Managers always cut from the bottom when revenue drops!
Fowey for one the staff are brilliant!
A friendsailed down from the solent stopped off in salcombe then onto Fowey then to Falmouth, mentioned the ridiculous prices and has altered his passage plan to avoid both on the return trip.
people will vote with their feet but afraid it may come too late for the staff when cost cutting will ensue. Managers always cut from the bottom when revenue drops!
Woodlouse
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Unfortunately it's the annual cost of maintaining the boat which drastically limits my funds when I get cruising.
robertj
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I see the old lord has handed over all his wealth to his son is it, so its the son who can charge not the old chap anymore lol.
it could be for tax reasons or just that he is getting older?
it could be for tax reasons or just that he is getting older?
robertj
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yes agree or if you could pack in maybe 50+ people onboard see how cost effective that would be on a £20 mooring.
if more space available possibly 100 people.
20p each that's very good value.
irony is that you get no more for your money just extra staff to collect it!
if more space available possibly 100 people.
20p each that's very good value.
irony is that you get no more for your money just extra staff to collect it!
Quandary
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When we go round the top of Skye we like to avoid Dunvegan and instead go in to Stein in Loch Bay because of the shelter and the old pub there. There were five visitors moorings, when the Council decided to give them up the pub which was the major beneficiary declined to take them over but the guy who runs the dive centre decided to maintain them, he started charging £10 a night and we were glad to pay it. When we went ashore and went over with the money he was surprised that we bought it voluntarily, he said hardly anyone paid and he was reluctant to go round to collect because of the aggro. he sometimes got from users. The next time we were there he said that they were costing him too much and he was intending to give them up, I think there is only one there now. We use visitors moorings in popular places where there is stuff on the bottom to avoid the faffing around with tripping lines etc. I like them to be there in those sorts of places and know that someone has to lay and maintain them.
An exception is Canna harbour where anchoring for generations on a clean bottom encumbered only by patches of weed, a local group has put a ring of moorings down over the clear sand leaving only the kelpy bit in the middle for anchoring. The sailors who never used their anchor never went there which is not a bad thing, you only got yachts and a few small motor boats and never saw any of the big gin palaces which appeals to my (inverted?) snobbery.
An exception is Canna harbour where anchoring for generations on a clean bottom encumbered only by patches of weed, a local group has put a ring of moorings down over the clear sand leaving only the kelpy bit in the middle for anchoring. The sailors who never used their anchor never went there which is not a bad thing, you only got yachts and a few small motor boats and never saw any of the big gin palaces which appeals to my (inverted?) snobbery.
Daydream believer
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Ehecatl
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River ownership
98% of all rivers and consequently the riverbeds in England are in private ownership and belong to the landowners of the adjoining land. In the River dart a part of the mooring fee includes 'River Tax'
98% of all rivers and consequently the riverbeds in England are in private ownership and belong to the landowners of the adjoining land. In the River dart a part of the mooring fee includes 'River Tax'
epervier
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I'm only the messenger!
benjenbav
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Would the "nice" representative of Monty's marine force (as mentioned above) have been your daughter by any chance, David?
PS. I have yet to pay for a mooring buoy on the Beaulieu river so I find it excellent value.
epervier
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Would the "nice" representative of Monty's marine force (as mentioned above) have been your daughter by any chance, David?
PS. I have yet to pay for a mooring buoy on the Beaulieu river so I find it excellent value.
Sorry Martin no, it's her husband who's the estates conservation officer, nothing to do with the HM office/river, other than keeping checks on wild life on and near the river, seagull island etc.
robertj
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Seajet
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Galadriel,
completely agree, it's the attitude which gets up ones' nose.
For this reason I haven't been back to Bucklers Hard for decades, but re the charges in the marina I thought there was a set fee irrespective of boat length ?
Probably spiffing for a 36 footer but eye watering for a 22 !
Angele
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No. As with most marinas in the UK, the fee varies with length. See http://www.beaulieuriver.co.uk/visiting
I'm surprised that Galadriel was presented with an argument that payment was based on length of pontoon, rather than boat length, but he does say that was "many years ago". I would hope they have dropped that sharp practice.
Although it doesn't specifically say so on the list of charges that the fee is charged on the boat length rather than on the size of the pontoon, that is what I would assume. If you take a print out of tariff with you, and they try to pull a fast one, I would ask them to show me a pontoon for each of the 14 size brackets in the marina. I strongly suspect they could not do so, and hence it must be referring to the length of the vessel.
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Seajet
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Angele,
I used to visit Bucklers Hard fairly often in the 1970's - mid 80's and I'm sure there was one fixed price in the marina then for something like all visiting boats under 36' or so.
As I say, I haven't been back for ages since having a sense of humour failure when a member of staff tried to open the companionway !
I have heard the staff are better now but reports about the Master Builders are still a bit dubious.