how can I mechanically join 2 lengths of braided line

[cagey]

With an attitude like that, may I waste more of your time and suggest, ever so politely, that you do your own research.

No you may not, please ,ever so politely ,F off, supercilious fools if you can't add anything usefull then start your own post

 

[Hadenough]

So what about responding to some of those who have tried to help?

 

[cagey]

Thanks I have already reacted to earlier useful posts, and thanks to all the other helpful posts but now wished I'd never bothered, yours was good but can't understand how an argument can develop over joining rope. First reply was foolish. Enjoy the silly fest I'm off

 

[alan_d]

Thanks I have already reacted to earlier useful posts, and thanks to all the other helpful posts but now wished I'd never bothered, yours was good but can't understand how an argument can develop over joining rope. First reply was foolish. Enjoy the silly fest I'm off

The "argument", as you call it, developed because you responded aggressively to a harmless piece of facetiousness.

 

[cagey]

Hmmmm how would you like me to respond. I ask simple question that needs straightforward answer, but the no brainers who have opinions and nothing more see fit to answer with what they think are witty and withering comments. Unfortunately this has been part of the demise of what was once a really good treasure trove of info, as you say facetiousness, why.
Why would facetiousness be acceptable as a response to a simple question, it would seem the author of the silly answer is hiding behind the immature cloak of ' It was only a joke' but why respond when you are unable to answer the question, possibly self importance who knows, but my question still is 'How to .... don't care now because got a lot of intelligent ideas that I hope will work.
Am aware I have contradicted myself

 

[estarzinger]

Make core (or cover) only loop splices in the two ends, and then lash them together. The lashing can be undone easily. That will be strongish and not much bigger than the dia of the line.

Or if you don't like making splices, just make the cover only loops by sewing them . . . pull some core out and cut it off, fold the cover back and sew it to itself to make the loop, then lash together.

The splice is properly called a 'reeving eye splice' . . . see http://www.neropes.com/Splicing Guide Individual Splices/Reeving_Eye_Splice.pdf, it would be 'proper, but is stronger than you apparently need and the sewing method just above work for what you describe.

 

[cagey]

Make core (or cover) only loop splices in the two ends, and then lash them together. The lashing can be undone easily. That will be strongish and not much bigger than the dia of the line.

Or if you don't like making splices, just make the cover only loops by sewing them . . . pull some core out and cut it off, fold the cover back and sew it to itself to make the loop, then lash together.

Thanks, strangely enough if jerrytugs idea doesn't work this is my( I mean your) simple/elegant solution.

 

[Wooden Boat Fittings]

Cagey, given the lack of parameters you put in your original post, the first suggestion was perfectly reasonable. It wasn't till we got all the way down to your Post #7 that we finally learnt why a knot wouldn't suit your situation. So your response to the first suggestion was remarkably rude, and Norman was not only polite but quite right in suggesting that if you didn't like the answers you were getting then you should do your own research.

Having read your remarkably rude reply to that comment --

No you may not, please ,ever so politely ,F off, supercilious fools if you can't add anything useful then start your own post

-- I'm happy to tell you (a) that I think you're lucky not everyone reacted the same way, and that you did get some suggestions you thought might be of use to you, and (b) the suggestion that I had that I thought might help in your situation I am keeping to myself.

Are you having a Bad Hair Day today, or are you always like this?

 

[single]

These sewn in?

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[cagey]

Cagey, given the lack of parameters you put in your original post, the first suggestion was perfectly reasonable. It wasn't till we got all the way down to your Post #7 that we finally learnt why a knot wouldn't suit your situation. So your response to the first suggestion was remarkably rude, and Norman was not only polite but quite right in suggesting that if you didn't like the answers you were getting then you should do your own research.

Having read your remarkably rude reply to that comment --



-- I'm happy to tell you (a) that I think you're lucky not everyone reacted the same way, and that you did get some suggestions you thought might be of use to you, and (b) the suggestion that I had that I thought might help in your situation I am keeping to myself.

Are you having a Bad Hair Day today, or are you always like this?

Thank you for your valued reply which didn't add to the solution in any way but it probably missed your attention that this is a sailing forum and probably I am aware of knots etc, surely you can see the chap I replied to was being a smart arse. The parameters were there but obviously only apparent to people with an IQ above waking up.

 

[Daydream believer]

Look at #7, #8, and #9!

Actually I have
But when there was a comment about an endless line for a monitor adjustment the OP commented that that was one of the items he was looking at & he has not said why he wants a reversible system of connection
So clearly he was just having an armchair dream moment

But if the OP genuinely wanted a line for his monitor There are lots of instructions about how to tuck one end into the first braid & the other end into the second a bit (like the kids crocodile game with an expanding tube on the finger) then a whipping to stop it slipping. To undo just cut the whipping & slide apart .

But one does not have to remove that line often except perhaps at the end of the season. So his " how do I undo it" part of the question was a bit unnecessary & a knife would be what most would use to cut the whipping

I honestly believe the " knot " reply was a simple joke & the OP seems to be one of those poor souls who does not like having a bit of fun poked at him.
Judging by the comments I suspect that there are a few more on this forum like that . But hey!!! you have put your heads above the parapet wall so lets go on popping at them just to wind them up!!!!!


Cagey
Post 23---"Enjoy the silly fest I'm off "
No you are not . You could just not help yourself in post 25 could you
Got you well wound up haven't we

 

[Highndry]

Look up Chinese Finger Trap. Anglers use the principle all the time for connecting fly line bellies to heads.

Also known as Kellems grips.

Alternatively use loop to loop connection.

 

[Poignard]

But if the OP genuinely wanted a line for his monitor There are lots of instructions about how to tuck one end into the first braid & the other end into the second a bit (like the kids crocodile game with an expanding tube on the finger) then a whipping to stop it slipping. To undo just cut the whipping & slide apart .

But one does not have to remove that line often except perhaps at the end of the season. So his " how do I undo it" part of the question was a bit unnecessary & a knife would be what most would use to cut the whipping

DD I must have had a deprived childhood but I don't know what you mean by 'the kids' crocodile game' ! But I'd be grateful if you would explain it or post a link as I need to do something like that for my Monitor 'steering line'.

I suppose it would be useful to be able to remove the Monitor 'steering line' at the end of the season. Mine has been in place for several years and could do with a wash. Also, it could be useful to have a spare one ready made up.
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It is surprising how some people on this forum seem to have no sense of humour at all. I can understand people not finding other people's flippant remarks funny but those who can't even recognise an attempt at humour must exist in grim po-faced world of their own making.

 

[Steve Clayton]

You could try fusing the two ends together with heat,should be strong enough for light duty and easily cut /removed or repaired when required.

ianat182

Saw a glue pack, (which u could add a powder to make a filler) demo'ed at SIBS. They stuck all sorts of things together including rope ends. Very strong/various packs - now if only I could recall the name-anyone?

 

[prv]

Saw a glue pack, (which u could add a powder to make a filler) demo'ed at SIBS. They stuck all sorts of things together including rope ends. Very strong/various packs - now if only I could recall the name-anyone?

Errm, that sounds like bog-standard epoxy to me, though I've not heard of using it to join ropes before.

Pete

 

[Daydream believer]

DD I must have had a deprived childhood but I don't know what you mean by 'the kids' crocodile game' ! But I'd be grateful if you would explain it or post a link as I need to do something like that for my Monitor 'steering line'.

I suppose it would be useful to be able to remove the Monitor 'steering line' at the end of the season. Mine has been in place for several years and could do with a wash. Also, it could be useful to have a spare one ready made up.
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It is surprising how some people on this forum seem to have no sense of humour at all. I can understand people not finding other people's flippant remarks funny but those who can't even recognise an attempt at humour must exist in grim po-faced world of their own making.

Perhaps post 32 is a better name
It was a piece of raffia like material weaved a bit like braid.
You push the ends together & it expands so as a child you would persuade your best friend to stick his finger in it
then when you pulled the end it reduced in diameter thus trapping the digit & you could pull your unsuspecting mate all around the playground - to the delight of every one else

i really must grow up some day !!!!

the point is you only have to insert one line into the other end , pull to tighten then whip the exposed end or tuck it into the braid then a small seizing to keep the " clamp effect " going

Or you could do what i did, & buy an aeries, which has an excellent click adjustment system

 

[Poignard]

Or you could do what i did, & buy an aeries, which has an excellent click adjustment system

Er, I think I'll go for the cheaper option

Anyway, thanks for explaining it to me

 

[NormanS]

Perhaps post 32 is a better name
It was a piece of raffia like material weaved a bit like braid.
You push the ends together & it expands so as a child you would persuade your best friend to stick his finger in it
then when you pulled the end it reduced in diameter thus trapping the digit & you could pull your unsuspecting mate all around the playground - to the delight of every one else
Rc
i really must grow up some day !!!!

the point is you only have to insert one line into the other end , pull to tighten then whip the exposed end or tuck it into the braid then a small seizing to keep the " clamp effect " going

Or you could do what i did, & buy an aeries, which has an excellent click adjustment system

Something very similar, made of wire, is used for pulling electric cables.

 

[LadyInBed]

At the risk of being a time waster, I would use a short length of copper pipe and crimp the ends together.
If it needed to be stronger, I would put pins through ( ¤ ) to trap the braid.