Honda 2.3 Outboard - no tell-tale.

[Steve65]

ITYWF that it was only the early BF2 models that actually had a pump ( pre 1999 ??). Later 2 and 2.3 models rely on water being forced up the water tube.

Steve Evans will clarify if he comes this way

Partially correct Vic, pre 99 models do have a water pump, post 99 models are 100% aircooled and have no pump or waterpipe

 

[AngusMcDoon]

Partially correct Vic, pre 99 models do have a water pump, post 99 models are 100% aircooled and have no pump or waterpipe

And a right kerfuffle it is to change the impeller. The Honda daft ideas penny pinching krap engine design team decided in their infinite stupidity that they would make the drive shaft stepped so that the impeller cannot be removed by sliding it upwards but instead the gearbox has to be totally dismantled to get it out. When they'd finished making a balls up of that model the same team of useless wonks who've never been near a boat designed the next one. Yamaha all the way for me now.

 

[Steve65]

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And a right kerfuffle it is to change the impeller. The Honda daft ideas penny pinching krap engine design team decided in their infinite stupidity that they would make the drive shaft stepped so that the impeller cannot be removed by sliding it upwards but instead the gearbox has to be totally dismantled to get it out. When they'd finished making a balls up of that model the same team of useless wonks who've never been near a boat designed the next one. Yamaha all the way for me now.

Yamaha 2hp also have exactly the same design, which I guess are also useless engineers??.They are not complicated to change, Evinride 4hp with neutral gear, Tohatsu small hp engines are far more difficult to change.ò

 

[ashtead]

I had thought these had rust problems with bolts in cheap steel though so maybe other issues to consider though other than absence of water exhaust?

 

[Steve65]

I had thought these had rust problems with bolts in cheap steel though so maybe other issues to consider though other than absence of water

 

[Scomber]

I had thought these had rust problems with bolts in cheap steel though so maybe other issues to consider though other than absence of water exhaust?

You can just buy a set of replacement ss bolts from steve. Easy peasy.

 

[Steve65]

Every small outboard has faults..Suzuki - Oil pump and clutch, Yamaha - gearboxes and carbs

You can just buy a set of replacement ss bolts from steve. Easy peasy.

Sorry no stainless kits in stock for sale any more

 

[Scomber]

There seems to be plenty of people slagging off these small honda 2.3. We've had our latest one 6 or so yrs, used em for 20. No bother at all if you follow the annual maintenance regime. Use fresh fuel and replace maybe bowl , ss bolts , etc I feel cleaning out carb to avoid old gummy fuel sitting over winter is one of biggest issues. Oh and take advice from someone like steve , he knows what he's talking about .

 

[Steve65]

There seems to be plenty of people slagging off these small honda 2.3. We've had our latest one 6 or so yrs, used em for 20. No bother at all if you follow the annual maintenance regime. Use fresh fuel and replace maybe bowl , ss bolts , etc I feel cleaning out carb to avoid old gummy fuel sitting over winter is one of biggest issues. Oh and take advice from someone like steve , he knows what he's talking about .

Absolutely spot on!

 

[jamie N]

WIth the bolts, when I service the engine I always give it a quick spray of WD40 and a rub down with an oily rag. I've never had a problem, each bolt came readily undone when I had to clean up the jet/carb after leaving it for too long with E10.
Superb engines.

 

[snowbird30ds]

For the last run of the season finish up with a carb full of aspen and it won't gum up, a can will last 5 years once opened.

 

[Steve65]

For the last run of the season finish up with a carb full of aspen and it won't gum up, a can will last 5 years once opened.

Aspen is not good for these engines, I absolutely guarantee Aspen will cause your spark plug to fail.
If you slacken the carb retaining bolt of a turn with the fuel turned off, keeping a finger to hold the bowl in place you will drain the bowl and will never ever have carb issues

 

[snowbird30ds]

I was only suggesting carb full of aspen last thing not running any length of time on it, it can still be drained afterwards.

 

[NormanS]

Aspen is not good for these engines, I absolutely guarantee Aspen will cause your spark plug to fail.
If you slacken the carb retaining bolt of a turn with the fuel turned off, keeping a finger to hold the bowl in place you will drain the bowl and will never ever have carb issues

I've been using ordinary petrol with the addition of the recommended dosage of Briggs and Stratton Fuel Set. Any comments?

 

[Steve65]

I've been using ordinary petrol with the addition of the recommended dosage of Briggs and Stratton Fuel Set. Any comments?
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Yes this works well

 

[NormanS]

I've been using ordinary petrol with the addition of the recommended dosage of Briggs and Stratton Fuel Set. Any comments?

Yes this works well
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Thank you.

 

[jamie N]

This might seem quite a "saddo" thing that an old guy with too few things in life bothering him, but I've a "special" 10mm socket driver, which has a safety line to clip onto the 'ignition' lanyard, so that at the end of the day, I can empty the carb easily enough without fear of losing the socket.
There's a "lesson learnt" behind this; I once dropped a spanner in -450' of water, when I was working at -300'. Words were said, grown ups (seriously) weren't impressed, and so on........ ......, for quite a while.