Chris_Robb
Well-known member
The last response HMRC actually confirms that arriving back after more than 3 years abroad - you can Claim RGR . This is the answer
"The special or exceptional circumstances provisions will still be in RGR rules in the post transition period. Under these provisions HMRC could consider if it was reasonable to provide a waiver from the three year, rule if there were exceptional circumstances in a particular case."
This was email round 10 with HMRC and this time they have answered. So it appears most of the RYA's scare story has just been to do with their total; misunderstanding of RGR and the bits of it we have used. So what if we now have to actually fill in the forms (enforcement) its five minutes work. Why the fixation on the 3 years when for ever we have used RGR Plus, the RGR Plus bit being Special Circumstances. So I think for most of us the worry is over. the year of Grace is a read Herring and the RYA efforts to get 3 years grace - is based on a total lack on understanding on what VAT is and how the Special Circumstances worked ! Bit sad really....
This is the link to the guidance on this under which RGR has always been used by returning yachts, only those returning on the deck of a ship have actually formally applied for this - Customs preferring to waive in all the rest.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/pay-less-import-duty-and-vat-when-re-importing-goods-to-the-uk-and-eu
What remain though, is HMRC's refusal to re think the situation of those who bought UK Vat Paid yachts second hand on the continent. It would appear that this group of yachtsmen - most likely the least affluent in the world of yachts, is being treated disgracefully - and is having NO support from the RYA or the BMF who have not even mentioned this as an issue! This is a fundamental disgrace on those 2 organisations.
"The special or exceptional circumstances provisions will still be in RGR rules in the post transition period. Under these provisions HMRC could consider if it was reasonable to provide a waiver from the three year, rule if there were exceptional circumstances in a particular case."
This was email round 10 with HMRC and this time they have answered. So it appears most of the RYA's scare story has just been to do with their total; misunderstanding of RGR and the bits of it we have used. So what if we now have to actually fill in the forms (enforcement) its five minutes work. Why the fixation on the 3 years when for ever we have used RGR Plus, the RGR Plus bit being Special Circumstances. So I think for most of us the worry is over. the year of Grace is a read Herring and the RYA efforts to get 3 years grace - is based on a total lack on understanding on what VAT is and how the Special Circumstances worked ! Bit sad really....
This is the link to the guidance on this under which RGR has always been used by returning yachts, only those returning on the deck of a ship have actually formally applied for this - Customs preferring to waive in all the rest.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/pay-less-import-duty-and-vat-when-re-importing-goods-to-the-uk-and-eu
What remain though, is HMRC's refusal to re think the situation of those who bought UK Vat Paid yachts second hand on the continent. It would appear that this group of yachtsmen - most likely the least affluent in the world of yachts, is being treated disgracefully - and is having NO support from the RYA or the BMF who have not even mentioned this as an issue! This is a fundamental disgrace on those 2 organisations.