High Drama at Studland yesterday

[Angele]

I could be doing the chap a disservice - and he had a technical failure that meant the throttle stuck open - but that wouldn't fit in with his profession otherwise, nor does it fit in with other (hearsay) reports of his antics on the water.

... but if you do have a technical failure, you should be able to stop one of these things pretty quickly by pulling out the kill cord. Ok, might leave him a bit stuck if now bobbing around and unable to restart but point it towards the shore and pull the cord before you get too close to anything. Then shout "Help!"

Edit by Dan, sentence removedBut, sounds from the OP that the jet ski belongs to the owner of the Sunseeker. Is that correct? Apart from providing the access of one jet ski to an idiot, did he do anything wrong that deserves naming and shaming too, or was he an innocent bystander?

 

[PaulGooch]

... but if you do have a technical failure, you should be able to stop one of these things pretty quickly by pulling out the kill cord. Ok, might leave him a bit stuck if now bobbing around and unable to restart but point it towards the shore and pull the cord before you get too close to anything. Then shout "Help!"
Edit by Dan, sentence deleted. But, sounds from the OP that the jet ski belongs to the owner of the Sunseeker. Is that correct? Apart from providing the access of one jet ski to an idiot, did he do anything wrong that deserves naming and shaming too, or was he an innocent bystander?

According to the OP :

Within a few minutes of arriving the skipper of the SS unloaded a Seadoo type jet ski out of his tender garage, and proceeded to buzz all around the anchorage at very high speeds

When he returned, injured, he boarded the Princess.

There is naming and there is shaming, simply mention the boats that were present doesn't shame them, IMO.

 

[Angele]

According to the OP :



When he returned, injured, he boarded the Princess.

There is naming and there is shaming, simply mention the boats that were present doesn't shame them, IMO.

... I'm getting lost. I thought:

The guy in the Phantom is the jetskier in the incident

Doesn't help that I am a raggie and wouldn't know a Sunseeker from a Princess and I always thought a Phantom was a jet figher that the French used to fly

Edit: I stand to be corrected. According to Wiki, Phantom jet fighter (aka F-4): US plus many other AF's, but not France!

 

[HarryH]

I Do think you are all being rather ignorant without the True Facts,Its easy to Judge from behind your computer screens but Dont condem Persons without knowing 110 % of the facts.
Im sure there is a very avid reason for this accident there was also a Trimaran involved who was reported by Poole Harbour officials for being out of control in the Harbour Entrance under Rag and Stick 25 mins before the incident hmm????
You must use motor in Poole Harbour this is a byelaw for sailors.and I am a Sailor myself and adhere to the rules of Poole Harbour.
So you Guys who are quick to condem I have one quote for you.
'Wind Yer Neck in' Until you know the True Facts.

 

[HarryH]

What does IMO Stand for?

 

[kcrane]

Doesn't help that I am a raggie and wouldn't know a Sunseeker from a Princess and I always thought a Phantom was a jet figher that the French used to fly

Edit: I stand to be corrected. According to Wiki, Phantom jet fighter (aka F-4): US plus many other AF's, but not France!

An upstanding raggie as it happens. You could have edited out the mistake but instead left it in and corrected yourself. Good show.

Were you thinking of the Mirage or Super Etendard?

 

[oGaryo]

An upstanding raggie as it happens. You could have edited out the mistake but instead left it in and corrected yourself. Good show.

Were you thinking of the Mirage or Super Etendard?

Last edited by kcrane; Today at 22:24.

 

[sarabande]

or what about walking the plank ?

 

[kcrane]

...and to show how slow I am it took me 5 mins to think of doing an edit!

 

[duncan]

sad set of circumstances

separating the individuals from the circumstances, and given the reaction to the incident between the swimmer (outside the bathing area) and the speedboat just a couple of miles and a few years apart - I think it's reasonable to assume that there will be an increased police presence in the area over the next month; maybe a blitz in early August.

there is occasional marine police presence in Studland (and Swanage) but they tend to react 'reasonably' and any persistent offenders modify their behavior over the period of a visit. Similar situations occur in the Solent area.

it's always a real shame when anyone gets injured, whatever the cause

in this incident I am still at a slight loss to understand how there was only the injured party and the, apparently untrained, radio operator between the 2 large craft - but that's another issue.

as already said - shame all round ' and not just because of the inevitable follow on. good news about the sea horses though

 

[Seahorses]

Thanks for all the comments and responses everyone. The event made a big impression on me, and the need for some kind of policing of speed limits is obvious from what everyone has said. I hadn't realised that this was going to be such a hot topic - but (at time of writing) over 2900 views in 3 days shows that this is something that has the particular interest of lots of us.

I didn't post any identifying info originally, but it now seems to have come into the public domain through other sources, so I might as well confirm that the name of the Sunseeker was Voodoo, the Princess was (I think) Lugswell or similar, and the Trimaran was Lil Annie. I haven't heard from anywhere how the injured guy is, or if the rumour that he was going to have an amputation is in fact true.

Chatting to other berth-holders on my pontoon, it turns out that the injured guy is a known "character" with lots of form relating to run-ins with other boaters, ranging from shouting matches to near collisions. Looks like he has been an accident waiting to happen for a long time and his luck finally ran out.

Well whilst chatting to other berth holders on your pontoon you should really be giving them the correct facts and not the scare mongering, very damaging gossip that you are clearly thriving on!!!! Reading what you have to say is gut renchingling incorrect. The gossip that you are spreading about this incident and the person , and persons involved is wrong. You clearly do not know this person , and so therefore you have no right to be spreading rumours the way you are. I am totally amazed at how nasty people become when they are sitting behind a computor screen with clearly nothing better to do than trying to distroy somebodys good name! An accident is what it says on the tin an accident ! and untill the person in question is well and able to deal with his own personal buisiness it might be a good idea if you keep your nose out of it ! After all nobody has been appointed as judge and jury.

 

[pistonbent]

i to have had dealings with name deleted by Dan but must say all good , i also agree with the above chap and find cobbs quay folk a bit strange even incestuous if you are not in there little gang your treated as a lepper some wont even say good day to you so why not stop the sturring until it has been sorted out by the appropriate channels and maybee wish the guy a speedy recovery there is quite afew that will be glad of his return , so until then happy boating or even sailing

 

[enterprise]

There seams to be quite a few 'New Users' in this thread, would they care to introduce themselves and their relationship if any with the injured party.

I don't think anyone would wish for someone to be injured no mater how stupid or careless the injured party was but it does no one any favours defending the actions of anyone being reckless through an anchorage, I'm not sure whether name and shame is the right way to go though, I'm sure he has learnt a lesson the hard way and doesn't deserve to be blighted by us lot.

I will reserve judgement until the guy himself has divulged all the facts to the investigators, until then I wish him a full recovery.

 

[AyeSkipper]

Pistonbent and Seahorses, I am not sure that people are impugning name removed by Dan in particular, just his behaviour on the day in connection. Strakeryius was there and saw what happened and I am sure we have all been in similar situations where jet ski users don't seem to understand that the same rules apply to them as to the rest of the boating fraternity.

Also is not calling Cobbs Quay folk stirrers jumping on the same bandwagon that you are accusing the OP of??

 

[strakeryrius]

I Do think you are all being rather ignorant without the True Facts,Its easy to Judge from behind your computer screens but Dont condem Persons without knowing 110 % of the facts.
Im sure there is a very avid reason for this accident there was also a Trimaran involved who was reported by Poole Harbour officials for being out of control in the Harbour Entrance under Rag and Stick 25 mins before the incident hmm????
You must use motor in Poole Harbour this is a byelaw for sailors.and I am a Sailor myself and adhere to the rules of Poole Harbour.
So you Guys who are quick to condem I have one quote for you.
'Wind Yer Neck in' Until you know the True Facts.

If you read through my OP again you will see that I reported purely the facts as I saw the drama unfold - I refrained from mentioning anyone by name or even the names of the boats involved. I didn't make any judgemental comments and certainly didn't condemn anyone.

In my second post I merely repeated what I have been told by other berth-holders as to their encounters with this person, and again refrained from giving out any personal names. I have no connection with, and do not know this person, so am merely repeating the comments of others for the sake of more detail and info about the incident.

 

[strakeryrius]

Well whilst chatting to other berth holders on your pontoon you should really be giving them the correct facts and not the scare mongering, very damaging gossip that you are clearly thriving on!!!! Reading what you have to say is gut renchingling incorrect. The gossip that you are spreading about this incident and the person , and persons involved is wrong. You clearly do not know this person , and so therefore you have no right to be spreading rumours the way you are. I am totally amazed at how nasty people become when they are sitting behind a computor screen with clearly nothing better to do than trying to distroy somebodys good name! An accident is what it says on the tin an accident ! and untill the person in question is well and able to deal with his own personal buisiness it might be a good idea if you keep your nose out of it ! After all nobody has been appointed as judge and jury.

When chatting to other berth-holders I simply apprised them of the facts as I saw them as an eye-witness. They were already aware of who was involved and actually told me all about him. There was certainly no gossip or anything else untoward.

I have studiously avoided mentioning anyone's names as I said in my last port, and have avoided passing critical comments of the injured jet-skier as much as possible.

Actually, as I understand it no-one is appointed judge and jury YET. But I hear that the police are involved so it may come to that later.

BTW - welcome to the forum - I see that you just joined today. Perhaps you can tell us if you were an eye-witness to the accident, and what your vantage point was. I agree with you 100% that it was an accident, but as with accidents on the roads, usually somebody is at fault, and we all have an interest in finding out who that person was in this incident so that they can be censured and make the water a safer place for the rest of us.

 

[powerone]

Whilst this might be classed as an accident. Jet Ski are dangerous. Like a car in the wrong situation at the wrong speed they can cause serious damage. Can, have & will kill people. This accident was lucky people got away. But I am sure over this summer, as previous summers someone wont.

But that doesnt get away from the facts that many people enjoy a nice summers day out sailing. Without the risk of a **** coming full belt on a jet ski that they cant handle upsetting them. That is not acceptable and something needs to be done.

I have enjoyed this thread. The op has done nothing wrong, nothing has been said that I wouldnt have expected from these forums.

Hopefully this wil be the last thread of this type over this summer. But sadly I dont think so. But I do sometimes live in hope.

 

[danfoley]

This forum is not a kangaroo court. I've removed people's names from this thread, this is clearly a serious incident and will be investigated by the relevant authorities.

I won't allow people's names to be tarnished in this forum before all the facts are known so please refrain from publishing personal details on this thread.

Dan

 

[epervier]

What does IMO Stand for?

"In My Opinion"

more commonly written as IMHO, "Humble" to appear unassuming, unpretentious.

well, that's how I use it

 

[[2068]]

I won't allow people's names to be tarnished in this forum before all the facts are known so please refrain from publishing personal details on this thread.

The names are already in the public domain via any news website you might care to visit.

Herding cats, reinserting genies into bottles, trying to get a lamb chop to go "baa", errm maybe not....