Heres the reason he climbed the mast to escape

[ribrage]

I tend to agree with Simon..
The police have been trying to enforce drugs out of soceity for over fifty years... they have failed
Thenexisting drugs industry encourages petty theaving... Indeed I herd a comment that most aquisitive theft is to feed drugs habits... so if you have ever had anything nicked or been burgled you are a victim of the failure of present drugs policy..
Taking this haul out the supply chain simply puts up the price on the streets, cUsing more financial turmoil for adicts and fueling another big haul...

Indeed I suggest that if Drugs supply were legal and licensed for sale at pharmacies... it would bankrupt the Taliban, reduce the amount of turf wars in inner city estates, reduce theft..... and pay huge amounts of tax to help reduce the deficit!

........ and because it was legalised more people start using drugs as they feel its ok to do so , as it s legal now, the NHS gets loaded up with more over dose cases , more ambulance call outs , the police are busier as now there are three times as many people stealing to feed a habit, insurance costs rise , ........... There goes all that additional tax revenue

Death penalty for dealers and hand chopped off for users......yeah sounds harsh .... Then all we need is a suitable punishment for smokers

 

[ribrage]

I tend to agree with Simon..
The police have been trying to enforce drugs out of soceity for over fifty years... they have failed
Thenexisting drugs industry encourages petty theaving... Indeed I herd a comment that most aquisitive theft is to feed drugs habits... so if you have ever had anything nicked or been burgled you are a victim of the failure of present drugs policy..
Taking this haul out the supply chain simply puts up the price on the streets, cUsing more financial turmoil for adicts and fueling another big haul...

Indeed I suggest that if Drugs supply were legal and licensed for sale at pharmacies... it would bankrupt the Taliban, reduce the amount of turf wars in inner city estates, reduce theft..... and pay huge amounts of tax to help reduce the deficit!

........ and because it was legalised more people start using drugs as they feel its ok to do so , as it s legal now, the NHS gets loaded up with more over dose cases , more ambulance call outs , the police are busier as now there are three times as many people stealing to feed a habit, insurance costs rise , ........... There goes all that additional tax revenue

Death penalty for dealers and hand chopped off for users......yeah sounds harsh .... Then all we need is a suitable punishment for smokers

 

[Twister_Ken]

Einstein's definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

That's why governments are insane to keep doing the same thing over and over again, in the 'war on drugs' and yet having no measurable impact. Worse still, they're surprised when they fail. That really is dumb.

 

[ribrage]

Einstein's definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

That's why governments are insane to keep doing the same thing over and over again, in the 'war on drugs' and yet having no measurable impact. Worse still, they're surprised when they fail. That really is dumb.

I have the same theory on general elections

 

[Seatrout]

I do hope the lads in black did not try to make the boat rock to persuade him to come down. I can't see anyone jumping voluntarily off the top of a mast.

Probably the tried and tested negotiation tactic was used: "Jump, you chicken-sh(t."

 

[Biggles Wader]

Probably the tried and tested negotiation tactic was used: "Jump, you chicken-sh(t."

Into this here blanket what we are holding,
And you will be alright.

 

[Mark-1]

I can't see anyone jumping voluntarily off the top of a mast.

According to a mate who arrived while medics were working on the body, witnesses said it was suicide. (I'm aware that eye-witnesses are frequently wrong.)

Scilly Pete said something similar.

 

[taz]

Einstein's definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

+1

 

[taz]

Einstein's definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
.

+1

 

[Babylon]

Death penalty for dealers and hand chopped off for users......yeah sounds harsh ....

And compulsory sterilisation for those lacking compassion, insight, tolerance and imagination.

 

[Woodlouse]

Into this here blanket what we are holding,
And you will be alright.

I fear some might get offended if I proved the next line.

 

[Biggles Wader]

I fear some might get offended if I proved the next line.

What because it says he hit the deck?

 

[Woodlouse]

What because it says he hit the deck?

And broke his f*cking neck.
There was no blanket.

Laughed?

 

[SimonFa]

........ and because it was legalised more people start using drugs as they feel its ok to do so , as it s legal now, the NHS gets loaded up with more over dose cases , more ambulance call outs , the police are busier as now there are three times as many people stealing to feed a habit, insurance costs rise , ........... There goes all that additional tax revenue

There is no evidence of that happening in Portugal where drugs have been decriminalised or in the USA in States that have legalised marijuana. Which is why the legalisation argument, or at least decriminalisation, is gaining ever more acceptability in fairly powerful circles.

 

[Otter]

Bizarre knocking of the customs, police and boarder force on this thread. The guy tries to land millions of quids worth of vile narcotics that are sold to desperate addicts who fuel their cravings through crime whilst round them their families disintegrate. And what we get on here is a parody of a 1970's right-on geography teacher from some nasty inner city comprehensive, whining about the nasty police and anyone else in authority.

The guy who died was selling stuff that screws lives and is paid for with miserable crime; the boys in black and blue got this one right, well done.

 

[SimonFa]

the boys in black and blue got this one right, well done.

The argument in this quarter isn't that the boys in black and blue didn't get it right, they obviously did taking the story on face value, its that with legalisation there there would have been less chance of them needing to be there in the first place.

 

[lustyd]

The argument in this quarter isn't that the boys in black and blue didn't get it right, they obviously did taking the story on face value, its that with legalisation there there would have been less chance of them needing to be there in the first place.

In fact you can see this with cigarettes. Since the price has gone up to ridiculous levels, smuggling has also risen to the point the UKBF now have to put more effort into preventing illegal tobacco smuggling. This story might have gone the same way had the boat been full of cigarrettes. The only way to reduce the crime is education and legalisation, and perhaps being a better human being towards you neighbor. People don't just tutn into vile drug taking criminals, there is always a reason they take that first hit and it's probably down to the way people treated them.

 

[Tomahawk]

Lusty raises an interesting point regarding taxation..
It does seem thencase that UK tax has risen tomthe point where tobaco supply has gone to the black market... Again poor thinking from the Government, insteqd of getting more revenue, they are loosing millions to smugglers..

I would suggest that education should include, forgoing free NHS tatment for lung cancer?

 

[lustyd]

I would suggest that education should include, forgoing free NHS tatment for lung cancer?

Since you couldn't prove that the cancer was caused by smoking that would be impossible, and also would make you the sort of human being pushing these people into drugs through depression! Society shouldn't be a "do everything right or else" where "right" is based on Daily Mail articles. Society is all about helping people who have made mistakes or been less fortunate than yourself. I'm an atheist but can definitely see a need for the return of church in society, they just need to get rid of all the god talk first. The message has always been bang on though, that's why they put it into a big story book that's lasted thousands of years

 

[SimonFa]

In fact you can see this with cigarettes. Since the price has gone up to ridiculous levels, smuggling has also risen to the point the UKBF now have to put more effort into preventing illegal tobacco smuggling. This story might have gone the same way had the boat been full of cigarrettes. The only way to reduce the crime is education and legalisation, and perhaps being a better human being towards you neighbor. People don't just tutn into vile drug taking criminals, there is always a reason they take that first hit and it's probably down to the way people treated them.

Indded.

Indeed.

"Former Yard detective chief inspector Will O’Reilly said the trade [counterfeit and smuggled cigarettes] was the fastest growing crime in the UK.

He said: “Just as armed robberies of the Seventies and Eighties made way for the drugs trade and large-scale fraud in the Nineties, so a new crime of choice has emerged, which carries even less risk and even greater profits.”

He said the potential profits for gangs was huge. Counterfeiters in China can manufacture a pack of cigarettes for less than 20p and sell them here for up to £5."