Heres the reason he climbed the mast to escape

Seajet said:
Sometimes I wonder what uproar there'd be if someone invented alcohol now and tried to sell it on street corners...
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similar to the uproar if you make your own whiskey and sell it on the streets without the various licences and taxes in place I'd have thought. You don't get treated all that differently to a drug dealer. same if you grow your own tobacco and sell it to people too.
 
Twister_Ken said:
Just maybe his business was going bust and he was desperate for money to avoid sacking people, or one of his kiddies is addicted and the dealer was threatening to withhold supplies unless he co-operated, or his mum needed $300,000 for life-saving treatment in the USA. You never know. He may not have just been a bad'un.
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No unless he was a delivery skipper that had been duped he was a bad-un. We know he was not that because he obviously knew what was on-board.

What I would love to know is did the UKBF know any thing or was it a random visit?
 
Seven Spades said:
No unless he was a delivery skipper that had been duped he was a bad-un. We know he was not that because he obviously knew what was on-board.

What I would love to know is did the UKBF know any thing or was it a random visit?
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or were they there just to murder some totally innocent stranger for a giggle?;)
 
Woodlouse said:
To be honest, I have a no drugs policy on my boat because I don't wish to see it confiscated and rummaged with prejudice not because I think I live on the moral high ground.
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Same here,and I have regretfully had to turn down one or two mates from crewing,because they like a joint off watch. This thread is rife with closet EDL armchair executioners,who are secretly gagging to be roughly taken by the Ugandan boxing team until they prolapse all over their stacked copies of the Daily Telegraph!
 
Woodlouse said:
To be honest, I have a no drugs policy on my boat because I don't wish to see it confiscated and rummaged with prejudice not because I think I live on the moral high ground.
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It's never occurred to me that I need a 'no drugs' policy on my boat.
But then I don't choose to sail or socialise with blatant drug users.
Our boat is a non-smoking zone same as our houses.
I wouldn't want to cross the channel with someone smoking on board or stinking of fags, whether they were adding anything illegal or not.
 
lw395 said:
It's never occurred to me that I need a 'no drugs' policy on my boat.
But then I don't choose to sail or socialise with blatant drug users.
Our boat is a non-smoking zone same as our houses.
I wouldn't want to cross the channel with someone smoking on board or stinking of fags, whether they were adding anything illegal or not.
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Each to their own. I have no problem with smokers and probably more than half of the friends I sail with do so.
 
How times change; I remember sitting on the foredeck of a friend's Quarter Tonner being encouraged, as the only smoker on board*, to chain smoke, in order to gain some clue as to what might be done with the sails, as we drifted from Harwich to Ostende...

* Haven't touched a gasper in 15 years, thank Heaven.
 
Minn said:
How times change; I remember sitting on the foredeck of a friend's Quarter Tonner being encouraged, as the only smoker on board*, to chain smoke, in order to gain some clue as to what might be done with the sails, as we drifted from Harwich to Ostende...

* Haven't touched a gasper in 15 years, thank Heaven.
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Skipper I raced with a lot would fire up a Wintermans Cafe Creme (rawplugs, he called them) in really light airs to help spot the breeze.
 
Seven Spades said:
No unless he was a delivery skipper that had been duped he was a bad-un. We know he was not that because he obviously knew what was on-board.

What I would love to know is did the UKBF know any thing or was it a random visit?
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I believe they're rarely random, except for some training exercises. UKBF contacts are usually intelligence-led; i.e. they knew what they would find and waited until the boat was at sea with indisputable evidence on board.
 
Woodlouse said:
Each to their own. I have no problem with smokers and probably more than half of the friends I sail with do so.
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Think I know a reasonable number of people but can only think of a couple of smokers, and one of those is very occasional. Seems to be a declining habit amoung adults with half a brain.
 
doris said:
Think I know a reasonable number of people but can only think of a couple of smokers, and one of those is very occasional. Seems to be a declining habit amoung adults with half a brain.
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Again, it depends on the company. Certain demographics tend to yield certain traits more than others and smoking is one of them.

Also age is a consideration, whilst obviously there are less people taking up smoking these days, what is more noticeable are the number of people who are giving up as they get older. I'm currently in my mid 20's and as I said a lot of those I sail with smoke, but I'd be surprised if most of them are still doing so in ten years time.
 
We have a no smoking policy onboard. From time to time I have sail as crew onboard other boats and can't stand the horrid smell of tobacco and now ask, when invited, if anybody smokes. If they are I politely decline to join the crew.
 
Seajet said:
SimonFa,

I agree with all your points !

I have never felt like recreational drugs either and ban their presence on my boat with any likely user.

Seems to me though cannabis ( forget the rest, true madness ) is safer than alcohol, certainly doesn't cause violent behaviour, quite the opposite from what little I know.

Sometimes I wonder what uproar there'd be if someone invented alcohol now and tried to sell it on street corners...
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sadly that is not true,the steep rise in various pshycosis in 'dope' smokers is all too documented and there is an increase in violence.
this I think is due to the steep rise in 'skunk' being smoked and also the chemical **** that is used to manafacture it nowadays
 
doris said:
Seems to be a declining habit amoung adults with half a brain.
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Probably more to do with the price tag than brain power - it's now over £8 for 20! I actually laughed out loud when I found that out standing next to a friend who was buying them :)
 
SimonFa said:
This sort of thing wouldn't happen if we didn't outsource the production, distribution and sale of something that is clearly wanted by people in the UK to some of the nastiest people on the world.

We could then let the men in black get on with something more productive as well as collecting taxes instead of criminalising large section of the population.

Judging by comments on here there are a lot of people who enjoy a few beers or glasses of wine (or both) and I wonder what view would be taken if alcohol was banned and this happened to someone who was smuggling alcohol?

NB before I get flamed by the Daily Mail jihadists as a hippy:

1. I don't and have never have taken recreational or hard drugs other than copious amounts of alcohol.

2. I have a no recreational drugs policy on my boat and I ask those that do use them not to use them 24 hours before boarding.
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I tend to agree with Simon..
The police have been trying to enforce drugs out of soceity for over fifty years... they have failed
Thenexisting drugs industry encourages petty theaving... Indeed I herd a comment that most aquisitive theft is to feed drugs habits... so if you have ever had anything nicked or been burgled you are a victim of the failure of present drugs policy..
Taking this haul out the supply chain simply puts up the price on the streets, cUsing more financial turmoil for adicts and fueling another big haul...

Indeed I suggest that if Drugs supply were legal and licensed for sale at pharmacies... it would bankrupt the Taliban, reduce the amount of turf wars in inner city estates, reduce theft..... and pay huge amounts of tax to help reduce the deficit!
 
Tomahawk said:
I tend to agree with Simon..
The police have been trying to enforce drugs out of soceity for over fifty years... they have failed
Thenexisting drugs industry encourages petty theaving... Indeed I herd a comment that most aquisitive theft is to feed drugs habits... so if you have ever had anything nicked or been burgled you are a victim of the failure of present drugs policy..
Taking this haul out the supply chain simply puts up the price on the streets, cUsing more financial turmoil for adicts and fueling another big haul...

Indeed I suggest that if Drugs supply were legal and licensed for sale at pharmacies... it would bankrupt the Taliban, reduce the amount of turf wars in inner city estates, reduce theft..... and pay huge amounts of tax to help reduce the deficit!
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