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[Fr J Hackett]

I still look at boats and this one would have appealed to me 12 years ago when I sailed with two good friends and were they alive now I would give it serious thought now I have the time to do it justice. However I ask myself could I manage it single handed? and the answer is perhaps but it would be hard work so perhaps not.

Fabulous boat.

Van de Stadt Samoa 47, DESTINY - Berthon International

 

[E39mad]

Love the gimaballed "skippers" berth amidships

 

[fredrussell]

Yes, that would do it. I didn’t get as far as the price. Is it one or two times the GDP of the UK?

 

[Fr J Hackett]

Yes, that would do it. I didn’t get as far as the price. Is it one or two times the GDP of the UK?

£395K including VAT probably need to spend on new sails at least so say £410K by the time you have finished.

 

[ean_p]

Mmmm very nice for its original intention...ie high latitude 'exploring' but would be very difficult to keep fresh and breezy down below ( and up top) in warmer climes.....for 'ordinary' use in the mid/ low latitudes it would need opening up a fair bit down below........

 

[Fr J Hackett]

Mmmm very nice for its original intention...ie high latitude 'exploring' but would be very difficult to keep fresh and breezy down below ( and up top) in warmer climes.....for 'ordinary' use in the mid/ low latitudes it would need opening up a fair bit down below........

Nothing that an aircon unit couldn't resolve below and a couple of wind scoops , maybe instal two opening ports in the doghouse windows. All additional money. But as you say it's designed for specific purposes not cruising in the West Country although it would be at home in the Western Isles as would its occupants.

 

[geem]

I still look at boats and this one would have appealed to me 12 years ago when I sailed with two good friends and were they alive now I would give it serious thought now I have the time to do it justice. However I ask myself could I manage it single handed? and the answer is perhaps but it would be hard work so perhaps not.

Fabulous boat.

Van de Stadt Samoa 47, DESTINY - Berthon International

It was anchored next to us a few months back. The hard top is pig ugly. Looks like it's been a transplant off another boat. The big bar over the back is pointless. Detracts from it appearance of what otherwise is a good looking boat. Its also a lot of money for what it is

 

[Fr J Hackett]

It's not pretty that's for sure, no issues with the radar arch, as for price how do you price it, it would have been very expensive when built. If the interior joinery is in as good a condition as it appears to be there isn't much to do apart from new sails. No doubt it would come for somewhere around the £350K mark.

 

[geem]

It's not pretty that's for sure, no issues with the radar arch, as for price how do you price it, it would have been very expensive when built. If the interior joinery is in as good a condition as it appears to be there isn't much to do apart from new sails. No doubt it would come for somewhere around the £350K mark.

It's painted aluminiun a corrosion nightmare waiting to happen. The big s/s bumper over painted aluminium? Horrid. I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but having seen it up really close. It's an awful long way down my short list. Any boat of that size custom built would cost a fortune to build. It is one person's idea of the perfect boat but really not mine.

 

[Fr J Hackett]

It's painted aluminiun a corrosion nightmare waiting to happen. The big s/s bumper over painted aluminium? Horrid. I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but having seen it up really close. It's an awful long way down my short list. Any boat of that size custom built would cost a fortune to build. It is one person's idea of the perfect boat but really not mine.

It depends on how the aluminium was primed before painting, there is a lot of bollocks talked about aluminium corrosion, it can be a problem if the electrics are poorly installed but if done properly there won't be a problem and Dutch builders are pretty good at that sort of stuff. You are correct it's one persons idea of the perfect yacht for sailing in cold waters and it's complicated.

 

[Buck Turgidson]

I too Look at the market all the time because eventually I will retire and will need a bigger boat. I can’t decide if this is fabulous or terrible
1976 Tyler S 42 Ketch for sale - YachtWorld

 

[geem]

It depends on how the aluminium was primed before painting, there is a lot of bollocks talked about aluminium corrosion, it can be a problem if the electrics are poorly installed but if done properly there won't be a problem and Dutch builders are pretty good at that sort of stuff. You are correct it's one persons idea of the perfect yacht for sailing in cold waters and it's complicated.

I know a number of proffessional captain on Dutch built aluminium boats that say they start fizzing from the day they are built. Even with sophisticated fault alarm systems they struggle to keep paint on them. These are boats, often with unlimited maintenance budgets and they still cant keep corrosion at bay.
I did a delivery trip on a 10 year old, 72ft Dutch built yacht last year. Lots of paint corrosion problems. This was a £6M boat. A friend has a corroding Ovni. 20 years old and looks terrible. You can keep your aluminium boat. Unless you want to break ice, i will stick with grp

 

[Buck Turgidson]

I know a number of proffessional captain on Dutch built aluminium boats that say they start fizzing from the day they are built. Even with sophisticated fault alarm systems they struggle to keep paint on them. These are boats, often with unlimited maintenance budgets and they still cant keep corrosion atmbay.
I did a delivery trip on a 10 year old, 72ft Dutch built yacht last year. Lots of paint corrosion problems. This was a £6M boat. A friend has a corroding Ovni. 20 years old and looks terrible. You can keep your aluminium boat. Unless you want to break ice, i will stick with grp

I Just can’t see how there would be a market for them if this was really the case. Are you sure it’s representative of all aluminium boats?

 

[geem]

I Just can’t see how there would be a market for them if this was really the case. Are you sure it’s representative of all aluminium boats?

I only know about 5 aluminium boats well. They all have problems with corrosion.
A friend built-in own boat 40 years ago in Ali. Keeping the corrosion at bay is a major part of his maintenance programme. I said to him that it must be a lot more work now it's old. He said no, it has always been the same.

 

[noelex]

Thanks for the link. Looks like a great boat.