Help identify dinghy

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I'm hoping that someone can help identify the fibreglass sailing dinghy in the photo attachments.
The dinghy was bought as a project, having some damage to the area that sits on the trailer that came with it. It is fairly old, possibly 70s vintage, just over 13ft in length x 5ft 10ins at the rowlocks. It has a plate saying that it was made by "Adams Martin (Leeds), Cape Mills, Farsley, Pudsey, Yorkshire".

Other parts include a wooden mast of 12 ft 6ins which I hope I'm correct in saying with my limited terminology is a gaff rig? (1 upright mast, hinged sail holder length of wood) + a wooden boom. The photos show a hinged daggerboard inside the blue housing. There is a large square hatch compartment forward with its lid missing, and the same rectangular one SAM_0904_1024x682.jpgSAM_0906_1024x603.jpgSAM_0903_1024x604.jpgSAM_0905_861x768.jpgSAM_0907_967x768.jpgfor the rear compartment, which I hope someone will confirm should be covered with a rear seat.

The gent I bought it from was unsure of the dinghy type as he had bought it from someone else previously. He had been told it was a 'Hobbit', but I can only find one instance of Hobbit on google apart from the wee guys with hairy feet of Tolkein fame. There is no information to go with the Hobbit name, nor a picture to compare it with. The only reference I can get to Adams Martin was that they built a dinghy called 'Crossbow' designed by John White, but again I can't reference this further.

Not being very clued up about dinghy designs, I'm bracing myself for someone to say it's not a Hobbit but a........(insert any famous name with thousands of them made). I'll live with the humiliation if that is the case, and welcome any feedback and info on the dinghy regardless.
 
I am not the foremost expert on obscure dinghies, but it's not one that I know.
Try the CVDRA, if they don't know, nobody does.
I suspect some boatbuilder has made a few to his own design . It may never have been a 'class' in the sense of having a class association or racing handicap.
It looks like a handy tender that doubles up for a bit of basic sailing, useful enough if that's what you want.
Rig is possibly gunter rather than gaff?
 
Thanks for your replies guys:
Iw395, thanks, I've looked at the database on CVDRA and can't find a 'Hobbit' listed, tried looking through all the photos for a similar dinghy but went goggle eyed after viewing about 20+ boats. I bow to your knowledge of Gunter v Gaff and wouldn't argue as my knowledge of these things is nil. I used 'gaff' generically as I thought it applied to a Mirror rig. There are photos attached to this email that may let you enlighten me, all suggestions will be gratefully received.

Searush, thanks, I have posted a photo of the mainsail (jib is the same) and you can see the 'H' logo with the 65 number. This is on both sides of each sail. there is no sailmaker's name on either sail sad to say. Hope this rings a bell with you or anyone watching.

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I had hoped that maybe someone on this forum from the Leeds area would remember the Adams Martin name and associate it with a memory they have of the company and its boats. I know this is a long shot given the age of the dinghy, and as suggested above, it could just be a company that ventured into the market and disappeared without leaving a mark.
 
Hi Searush,
So at least I know there are 64 other guys wondering what they have sat on the trailer:)...I also have just found out this snippet from the CVRDA forum from someone else's post that the dinghy they were trying to identify was:
"but either a Maple or Runnymede GRP, my personal veiw is that it is a Runnymede. Both builders used the same mould which was taken from BM600 (The Hobbit) a decent "pre modernised" hull shape. She is bound to be on the heavy side and a very typical late '70s Grp moulding."

I also found that Maple was the name for Maple Plastics, not the name of their production dinghy.

I don't know the relevance of the BM600 whether it is a dinghy name or a design name, probably the latter if several companies were using it. Hope this helps
 
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