Greta Thunberg is crossing the Atlantic on Vagabond.
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Ohlin Karcher
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The greenest form of energy is nuclear, so maybe Thunberg and her mad-marxist minders can hitch a ride on an atomic ship for the next Youtube clickbait stunt.
I think there are some nuclear powered Russian icebreakers in commision..
I think there are some nuclear powered Russian icebreakers in commision..
Kola
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The European Project for Ice Coring in Antarctica (EPICA) first drilled a core near Dome-C at 75°S 123°E 300 miles from Vostok.
The ice thickness there is 3,309m, the core was drilled to 3,190 m. It is the longest ice core in the world, where ice has been sampled to an age of 800,000 year's ago. Annual average temperature there is -54°C. Information about the core was first published in Nature magazine on June 10, 2004. The core revealed 8 previous glacial cycles. The warming and cooling cycles have a 100,000 year period. Homo sapiens evolved just 200,000 year's ago, leaving the culprit for the previous 7 warming periods still on the loose!
The ice thickness there is 3,309m, the core was drilled to 3,190 m. It is the longest ice core in the world, where ice has been sampled to an age of 800,000 year's ago. Annual average temperature there is -54°C. Information about the core was first published in Nature magazine on June 10, 2004. The core revealed 8 previous glacial cycles. The warming and cooling cycles have a 100,000 year period. Homo sapiens evolved just 200,000 year's ago, leaving the culprit for the previous 7 warming periods still on the loose!
capnsensible
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What if its all rubbish and we are making a better planet for nothing?
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Better for free, I would say that’s a bargain.
Kukri
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I see there are a couple of pseudo scientific climate denials on this thread. Just to make the obvious point that climate science is complicated and any refutation that can be put in 3 paragraphs on a web forum has certainly been evaluated and found not to reverse the point that humans are creating excess co2 driving increased heating (and incidentally jet planes contributing to h20 in the stratosphere hence their outsize contribution to global warming what with water vapour being the strongest greenhouse gas).
Any simplistic denials of anthropogenic climate warming just make the contributors look like simpletons (or perhaps they have an ulterior motive and take the rest of us as simpletons).
Any simplistic denials of anthropogenic climate warming just make the contributors look like simpletons (or perhaps they have an ulterior motive and take the rest of us as simpletons).
Resolution
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Bluff or double-bluff?
It is of course true that each successive generation is able to identify the faults made by the preceding generation...............................................and then invent some new ones themselves.
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webcraft
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Well, it looks like La Vagabonde has dodged the worst of the weather and is now on course for the Azores in steadily improving conditions.
Hope Greta makes it to Madrid in time for the Conference.
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Well, it looks like La Vagabonde has dodged the worst of the weather and is now on course for the Azores in steadily improving conditions.
Hope Greta makes it to Madrid in time for the Conference.
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Ohlin Karcher
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I was wondering if that deep low, off Florida, was caused by 'global warming', or is such weather a natural phenomenon which has been occurring for billions of years?
Kukri
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Old Harry
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will we skate on the tidal Thames ever again ????
beermonkey
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LMFAO - brilliant.
GrahamD
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One swallow doesn’t make a summer and one deep depression neither refutes nor confirms global warming. However a series of unusually deep depressions occurring over an unusually short period, linked with a whole range of unusually severe weather phenomena across the world in the same time frame, which continues to occur in a way which conforms to a increasingly well respected theory may well be well on the way to cast iron proof.
webcraft
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Well, they are beam reaching at 7.5 knots now. Horrendous weather 100 miles North of them, but looking fine along their current track. It really shows the value of good weather routing.
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Well, they are beam reaching at 7.5 knots now. Horrendous weather 100 miles North of them, but looking fine along their current track. It really shows the value of good weather routing.
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Ohlin Karcher
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A gammon writes:
Since the dawn of mankind, some of us hominids have imagined that our actions have enraged supernatural entities.
Heavenly bodies, spirits in the sky, mother nature, poseidon, gaia, gods and demons, angry earthquakes, vengeful tsunamis, whichever; our actions have supposedly disturbed the 'balance', taken out more than we put in, upset the equilibrium, infuriated deities with our greed and despoilment of the land, ocean, or biosphere of the epoch.
The social phenomenon endlessly repeats itself, and every time the story is the same: We have been greedy, we must pay by suffering armageddon, unless we act, and act now! It's nearly to late, but if we hurry, we have a chance to save ourselves!
Each time around, the mass hysteria is exploited by cynical agents, whether long-forgotton shamens, witch-doctors, prophets, seers, cult leaders, priests, politicians, to whip up a frenzy of self-flagellation and demented wailing for sacrifices to be made, by all of us!
There is always contemporary proof to satisfy the gullible, whether thunderstorms, volcanic eruptions, plagues and pestilences, or dubious hockey-stick graphs it matters not.
Those who question, or even mock, the mass stampede into panicked idiocy have for millenia been reviled, and no doubt cast out and even sacrified to propitiate the furious deity of the era.
Despite numerous dispassionate analyses of this curious spasm of evolutionary psychology, it seems destined to continue for ever. Just like the planet in fact!
Since the dawn of mankind, some of us hominids have imagined that our actions have enraged supernatural entities.
Heavenly bodies, spirits in the sky, mother nature, poseidon, gaia, gods and demons, angry earthquakes, vengeful tsunamis, whichever; our actions have supposedly disturbed the 'balance', taken out more than we put in, upset the equilibrium, infuriated deities with our greed and despoilment of the land, ocean, or biosphere of the epoch.
The social phenomenon endlessly repeats itself, and every time the story is the same: We have been greedy, we must pay by suffering armageddon, unless we act, and act now! It's nearly to late, but if we hurry, we have a chance to save ourselves!
Each time around, the mass hysteria is exploited by cynical agents, whether long-forgotton shamens, witch-doctors, prophets, seers, cult leaders, priests, politicians, to whip up a frenzy of self-flagellation and demented wailing for sacrifices to be made, by all of us!
There is always contemporary proof to satisfy the gullible, whether thunderstorms, volcanic eruptions, plagues and pestilences, or dubious hockey-stick graphs it matters not.
Those who question, or even mock, the mass stampede into panicked idiocy have for millenia been reviled, and no doubt cast out and even sacrified to propitiate the furious deity of the era.
Despite numerous dispassionate analyses of this curious spasm of evolutionary psychology, it seems destined to continue for ever. Just like the planet in fact!
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Trident
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And just to prove my comment above along comes someone who cannot tell the difference between superstition and science but tries to put a pseudo psychological spin on his bull to give it credence. And this sort of thing really should be confined to the lounge
Heckler
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And thats the point, people are not very clever, things they see in their lifetime, they think that they are indicative of thousands of years change., They aint!
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