Great Day's Sailing

eastcoastbernie

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When three skippers and one crew meet up in the Lightship on a Saturday night with no particular plans for the following day anything could happen.

After a jar or two (and some quite nice nosh too) it was decided that a 50 footer (Croix des Gardes) and a 40 something footer (Cayenne) should race a 25 footer (Beyond Reason) on a course out to Roughs Towers and back.

The rules were discussed at length. Our racing pennant would be a red ensign. We could carry any sails we fancied. The start line would be from Languard at 10.00 precisely when Languard bore 90 degrees. Time and bearing to be taken from gps. Course would be South Cork to Roughs Towers to Cork Yacht Beacon to Languard. All marks to port. Entrants to take their own time at finish line.

Croix des Gardes and Beyond Reason were lined up at Languard at the appointed hour but Cayenne was obviously not going to make it in time, so after a quick 3-way VHF on channel 77, we agreed to postpone the start to 10.10 to give Cayenne a chance to get to the line in time.

I should point out that Beyond Reason was the only two-handed vessel and even with two hands it was difficult to judge a perfect start when Languard bore exactly 90 degrees at precisely 10.00, but we think we managed it and were told later that the others just copied us, so you can take it to be a perfectly judged start by all competitors.

The leg from Languard to South Cork was a dead run. Pyro was soon in the lead with yankee, staysail and main, Beyond Reason hot on his heels with mainsail and poled-out genoa, and Cayenne a little behind main and headsail. Sun was shining and boats were moving well and everybody happy.

Beyond Reason had to drop the pole before hardening up at South Cork which cost a little time and Pyro moved ahead. The leg from South Cork to Roughs Towers was a broad reach but rather windier than anticipated and Beyond Reason's crew questioned their decision to keep the genoa. Cayenne overtook looking very much more comfortable.

On Beyond Reason the combination of rather too much weather helm and a large concrete structure coming closer and closer was becoming slightly alarming. The crew decided to hank off the genoa and hank on the working jib for the next leg which was anticipated to be a beat. This was executed on the broad reach before Roughs Towers and cost us dearly time-wise but was thought to be the right decision as headsail changes on a bouncy beat are not much fun.

Roughs Towers was rounded in this order: 1. CdG, 2 Cayenne, 3 BR. The cross tide was really strong and the wind had swung around which effectively robbed Beyond Reason of the beat she was hoping for. We had rigged the working jib and we could have kept the genoa. We watched C d G and Cayenne get further and further away. After passing Cork Yacht Beacon, and with the wind dropping, we decided to drop the working jib and hoist the genoa again. We weren't going to catch the others up, but we might as well attempt to finish with some style.

We heard Pyro and Keith talking on the VHF confirming one another's finish times, then they called us up to ask how we were doing. 'Can't see Languard yet, but I can see the red channel marker which I think is the one before Languard'. Cayenne and CdG were waiting at the finish line and each of them gave Beyond Reason a hoot.

Great day's sailing, great fun. Pyro is still trying to work out the result, but thinks the corrected time according to handicap puts us in order of waterline length with about 2 minutes between us, ie. CdG first, Cayenne 2nd and BR third. We're thinking of making it an annual event. Not sure what we will call it yet.

Keith took some pix and a video which I hope he will post
 
I thought that you only entered races where you could win on handicap :D

Sounds like fun and the excuse for a good sail.


Harsh Roger, harsh. :(


The reason Pyro can't work out a result is that Cayenne and CdeG have IRC handicaps. Beyond Reason has a Portsmouth Yardstick handicap and the two aren't compatible. So he has been unable to use the my PY handicap and had to guess what my IRC might be. If anyone knows how to change a Portsmouth Yardstick into an IRC or has any other helpful information on how to arrive at a proper result, it would be interesting.

Oh, and Roger, if you can find enough Gibsea 77's willing to race me, I will be happy to take them on in a single class race. ;)
 
note to PyroJames

James

If you should read this, a google search turned up this website

http://www.petestack.com/sailing/apps/corrected.php

In theory you put in any result, IRC, or PY or CYCA or something and it works it all out. It doesn't claim to be 100 per cent accurate, even says that you can get totally different results using the various ratings. I couldn't do it because I don't know yours or Keith's finishing times or IRCs.

Still waiting to hear if anyone has any other useful information.
 
James

I found the formula. It is

Corrected time = Elapsed Time divided by Portsmouth Yardstick x 1000

For reference, my PY at Burnham started at 1090, then dropped to 1080 when I won the weekend races. The following year I think they started me at 1080 then dropped me to 1070 after I won again. This took account of the fact that it was a no spinnaker class, presumably the PY would be a lot lower in a spinnaker race. Other than that your guess is as good as mine!

Bernie
 
Lost the prop!

Hi Bernie

Very sorry we could not join in your race.
We had to get back to Ramsholt in time to go along side the quay to unload as my young crew had managed to knock the prop of the dinghy outboard on Friday evening. :mad:
The outboard people at Levington didn't have one in stock. :(
I did not fancy rowing back and forth from our mooring with 2 or 3 dinghy loads against wind and tide.

Seems to have been a bad week for props on the forum:o

Mind you we had a cracking sail back up the coast.
 
James

I found the formula. It is

Corrected time = Elapsed Time divided by Portsmouth Yardstick x 1000

For reference, my PY at Burnham started at 1090, then dropped to 1080 when I won the weekend races. The following year I think they started me at 1080 then dropped me to 1070 after I won again. This took account of the fact that it was a no spinnaker class, presumably the PY would be a lot lower in a spinnaker race. Other than that your guess is as good as mine!

Bernie


I don't think it calibrates with the IRC (which I have) or the SYH Classics which Cayenne has (although I have too) as it would mke your time extremely uncompetitive (Effective IRC of 0.96, worse than CdG). I had a long look last night for a Gibsea 77 IRC but couldn't dig one up.

Times for anyone who maye be able to sort this out are:

CdG 3h 19m 35s
Cayenne 3h 30m 40s
BR 3h 52m 0s

Using an approx IRC of 0.8 for BR

Gives corrected times as follows:
CdG 3h 2m 58
Cayenne 3h 3m 17s
BR 3h 5m 36s

The Rough Handicap Challenge is very close racing!

I also need to sort out my upwind work and really should have had a reef in for the leg to Roughs Tower.

Was a bloody good day out.

Challenge open to anyone any time.

Rules.

Languard bearing 090 is the start line. Pass outside South Cork, Roughs Tower, Cork Sand Yacht Beacon, back to Start line. Try and stay out of the shiiping channel. Ahem. Self time.

We all did it anti-clockwise as that was good for the tide, but feel free to do it clockwise instead.
 
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I think Berinie would be described in golfing circles as a bandit (in the nicest possible way)
I'm sorry I missed Cowes this year. As of next week I shall be luxuriating in 25 paid days off a year so count me in :p

Patrick
 
The RHC 2010

Yes it was a great day and all the better for the company (sounds a bit odd for single handed sailing but you know what I mean).

I'm afraid the photos are not up to much, but they were from my mobile, whilst Cayenne had her rail under and we were doing up to 8.5kts, did I mention 'no autopilot'

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w59/flykeith/08082010131.jpg
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w59/flykeith/08082010130.jpg
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w59/flykeith/08082010129.jpg
http://s173.photobucket.com/albums/w59/flykeith/?action=view&current=berniesailvid.mp4

Thanks James for sorting the numbers, it is nice when it ends up close like that; and I will try and get to the start on time next year.

Keith
 
Keith

Thanks for the photos. I especially like the video where BR appears to go airborne! Felt like it on board too!

James

I have posed the question on scuttlebutt and it seems you can't use IRCs with PYs. One poster suggests converting your IRCs to PYs with a formula. Using a PY of 1014, they have arrived at an IRC of 8 something. Presumably 1014 is the handicap for spinnaker, furly wurly and stuff as Burnham Week gave me handicaps of 1090-1070. The formula is on scuttlebutt if you want to give it a try.

Patrick

What's a golfing 'bandit'? Should I be flattered or do I need to give you a slap next time I see you?

Bernie x
 
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