GPS warning

AntarcticPilot

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Dear All,

This follows on from another thread on navigational style. However, in the last 24 hours there have been 4 major flares on the Sun, and we can expect more as the year progresses. See http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-22539160.

The current flares happen not to be pointing in the direction of the Earth, so will have no effects on us. However, if a major flare occurs which targets the Earth, we can expect a wide range of phenomena that might include radio interference (both HF and VHF) and disruption of GPS. GPS problems might well include substantially reduced accuracy and spurious positions in addition to temporary loss of GPS signal. In the very worst case, the aging GPS satellites might well be damaged; this is unlikely but not impossible.

There can be little warning of such events; the immediate effects travel from the Sun at the speed of light and are followed by other effects that travel at lower velocities. The effects potentially persist for many hours; perhaps days.

This is coupled with the 11 year cycle of solar activity; we are passing through the period of maximum solar activity at the moment. We cannot forecast how intense the solar activity will be, nor the exact period it will persist for. There are many other potential effects that could cause power supply problems and problems with communications cables, but these are unlikely to affect sailors directly.

As we progress through the Solar Maximum, I suggest that we ensure that we sanity check GPS locations when in critical situations, and do not rely solely on them. Also, it may be a good idea not to rely on mobile phones or VHF as the sole means of calling for emergency assistance.
 
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How can "spurious positions" result from this?

Because GPS depends on precise timing of signals from several satellites. Solar flares can disrupt this by changing the total electron content of the Ionosphere, which mucks up the timings wonderfully. All are delayed, but the exact amount of the delay depends on the path the signal takes through the Ionosphere. Worse in polar regions - it can happen there in "normal" solar conditions for signals passing though the wrong bit of the ionosphere. So, there are potentially three effects, more or less in decreasing likelihood:
  1. Ionospheric disturbances causing incorrect positions.
  2. Loss of signal because of electromagnetic interference
  3. Loss of satellites caused by electromagnetic effects in the satellites - basically, they can be fried!
 
I had a strange experience with a mile or two of the Queen Mary 2 when she was anchored ..... no satellites signals were recorded on the Raymarine and yet our friends 5 miles away reported they had no problems. The gps recovered when I came back to our anchorage.

I have also had very weird GPS data telling me I was doing 90 knots close to a US Navy base.

I wonder if this is a case of white noise and specific signal generation respectively?
 
Because GPS depends on precise timing of signals from several satellites. Solar flares can disrupt this by changing the total electron content of the Ionosphere, which mucks up the timings wonderfully. All are delayed, but the exact amount of the delay depends on the path the signal takes through the Ionosphere. Worse in polar regions - it can happen there in "normal" solar conditions for signals passing though the wrong bit of the ionosphere. So, there are potentially three effects, more or less in decreasing likelihood:
  1. Ionospheric disturbances causing incorrect positions.
  2. Loss of signal because of electromagnetic interference
  3. Loss of satellites caused by electromagnetic effects in the satellites - basically, they can be fried!
I very much doubt a GPS receiver can produce erronous position data. It uses rigorous error checking to discard faulty data. Do you have any references?

http://www.gps.gov/technical/ps/1995-SPS-signal-specification.pdf
 
I very much doubt a GPS receiver can produce erronous position data. It uses rigorous error checking to discard faulty data. Do you have any references?

http://www.gps.gov/technical/ps/1995-SPS-signal-specification.pdf

No references, but plentiful experience of it happening in the polar regions, where ionospheric disturbances are more usual than they are in temperate latitudes. I believe dual frequency receivers are more resilient in these conditions (which is why the military use them), and of course the full constellation that we now have is more resilient than the early constellation was - you have more redundancy. But it can happen.

More mundanely, I'm sure we've all seen occasional "spikes" in GPS positions; I've seen it on my car GPS on occasion.
 
I think the key to the use of Nav Aids such as GPS is to remember they are Nav Aids, ie, aids to navigation. helpful though they may be they should never be used as a substitute for good passage planning with charts.
 
I very much doubt a GPS receiver can produce erronous position data. It uses rigorous error checking to discard faulty data. Do you have any references?

Most marine, handheld and car GPS units are single frequency, code phase receivers. As Antarctic Pilot has pointed out, they work by measuring the signal travel time from each satellite. To convert these times into ranges they need to model the velocities through the various layers of the atmosphere. Solar disturbances can result in significant errors in the velocity estimates and therefore the calculated ranges. GPS requires a minimum of 4 satellites to fix a 3D position. Any extra satellite ranges used to compute the position provide redundancy and can be used to estimate the reliability of the solution by seeing how well individual ranges fit the position as computed by the others. This technique is quite good at removing one or two bad ranges from the solution, but in periods of high ionospheric disturbance, all the ranges may be distorted and a bad position output.
 
...... I believe dual frequency receivers are more resilient in these conditions (which is why the military use them).....
Not only the military but also survey grade commercial receivers are generally dual frequency, operating on L1 (1575.42MHz) and L2 (1227.60MHz). As the signal time delay is proportional to the inverse of the frequency squared, these receivers can calculate, rather than model that delay from the difference in arrival time of the L1 and L2 signals. Unfortunately all our marine receivers are L1 only.
 
Not wishing to disrespect the esteemed forumites' opinions and reports, but I'd really want to read a proper study into GPS errors before starting to worry about solar flares.
 
We experienced this strange GPS mis-position when approaching Glengarriff, west Ireland. The position was out by a mile or 2 but as you can see, the satellite signal was good but the altitude was a bit off! The condition continued for about 10 minutes.

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On our way back 4 days later, the same thing happened at about the same place. I put it down to Irish miles.

Derek
 
But! ... it does create some nice photo's

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& I do have my HBC & laminated charts ..... ;)
 
Thanks for that. I speed-read the former link late last night, so my apologies if I missed anything crucial. It appears I am correct in my assumption that solar activity may degrade accuracy, but spurious positions are not a concern. Altitude data is more seriously affected. All in all, not a worry to the day sailor, but I imagine it could be a serious concern for a surveyor (which I think is something AntarcticPilot is involved with).
 
Not wishing to disrespect the esteemed forumites' opinions and reports, but I'd really want to read a proper study into GPS errors before starting to worry about solar flares.

So you don't accept first hand experience of a GPS unit stating a location many miles from where you are? I've experienced it with a Garmin 152 GPS - the plotted course blipped and put us at the top of Portsdown hill ... a little tricky in a 30'er with a 6' keel ...
 
So you don't accept first hand experience of a GPS unit stating a location many miles from where you are? I've experienced it with a Garmin 152 GPS - the plotted course blipped and put us at the top of Portsdown hill ... a little tricky in a 30'er with a 6' keel ...
No. Anecdotal evidence doesn't mean anything to me. There are any number of reasons why a handheld GPS could provide an incorrect position, not least of which is operator error. How many times have we read of two devices giving different positions, only to find they were set to different datums?
 
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