ashanta
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My understanding is how I described it. Hence the fitting from boom to mast is called the goose neck.
Regards.
peter.
Regards.
peter.
Goosewinging - what tack is he on?
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ashanta
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My gennie is far bigger than my main as was the case for many yachts of IOR class racing in the seventies. The tack was still determined by which side the wind was on the main not the gennie.
Regards.
peter.
Regards.
peter.
Magic_Sailor
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Yes
Magic
Magic
snowleopard
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Re: Little boats give way to big boats!
Known among the professionals as the 'Gross Tonnage Rule' I understand.
Known among the professionals as the 'Gross Tonnage Rule' I understand.
l'escargot
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To really get into the definition game, the boom is only an indicator of the tack on modern boats - the tack is actually defined by the side of the boat that the wind comes from. Hence on starboard tack the wind come from the starboard side of the boat - it predates booms and bermudan rig and applies equally to boomless boats with loose footed mains. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Equally the gooseneck is a modern derivative and boats were goosewinging when the boom was held to the mast by a grommet.
Equally the gooseneck is a modern derivative and boats were goosewinging when the boom was held to the mast by a grommet.
machurley22
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I don't think that's quite right.
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- the tack is actually defined by the side of the boat that the wind comes from.
[/ QUOTE ]Really it's the side that the wind appears to come from. Someone mentioned running by the lee earlier and this is the case where the difference is important. One vessel cannot accurately judge the wind of another and a vessel is on starboard tack therefore when her main sail is out to port (boomed or not) regardless of whence the wind actually comes.
Dave
[ QUOTE ]
- the tack is actually defined by the side of the boat that the wind comes from.
[/ QUOTE ]Really it's the side that the wind appears to come from. Someone mentioned running by the lee earlier and this is the case where the difference is important. One vessel cannot accurately judge the wind of another and a vessel is on starboard tack therefore when her main sail is out to port (boomed or not) regardless of whence the wind actually comes.
Dave
l'escargot
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....and a vessel is on starboard tack therefore when her main sail is out to port (boomed or not) regardless of whence the wind actually comes.
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so how did Nelson know what tack Victory was on then? /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
From the Racing Rules:
"Tack, Starboard or Port
A boat is on the tack, starboard or port, corresponding to her windward side."
....and a vessel is on starboard tack therefore when her main sail is out to port (boomed or not) regardless of whence the wind actually comes.
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so how did Nelson know what tack Victory was on then? /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
From the Racing Rules:
"Tack, Starboard or Port
A boat is on the tack, starboard or port, corresponding to her windward side."
fireball
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Windward side?
Very good, but you have to read it with the other definitions too...
http://www.sailing.org/RRS2005/Definitions.pdf
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Leeward and Windward A boat’s leeward side is the side that is or, when she
is head to wind, was away from the wind. However, when sailing by the lee
or directly downwind, her leeward side is the side on which her mainsail lies.
The other side is her windward side. When two boats on the same tack overlap,
the one on the leeward side of the other is the leeward boat. The other is the
windward boat.
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So a boat with her main out to port but sailing by the lee is on starboard tack as has already been correctly stated.
In my mind there are only two confusions - one with twin headsails and no main (forget which side you fasten the boom - it doesn't count, it is the sail that matters) and if your sailing backwards, but I think they have cleared that one up in the racing rules ....
Very good, but you have to read it with the other definitions too...
http://www.sailing.org/RRS2005/Definitions.pdf
[ QUOTE ]
Leeward and Windward A boat’s leeward side is the side that is or, when she
is head to wind, was away from the wind. However, when sailing by the lee
or directly downwind, her leeward side is the side on which her mainsail lies.
The other side is her windward side. When two boats on the same tack overlap,
the one on the leeward side of the other is the leeward boat. The other is the
windward boat.
[/ QUOTE ]
So a boat with her main out to port but sailing by the lee is on starboard tack as has already been correctly stated.
In my mind there are only two confusions - one with twin headsails and no main (forget which side you fasten the boom - it doesn't count, it is the sail that matters) and if your sailing backwards, but I think they have cleared that one up in the racing rules ....
l'escargot
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Re: Windward side?
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...However, when sailing by the lee
or directly downwind, her leeward side is the side on which her mainsail lies.
[/ QUOTE ]
OK, so back to Nelson - how did they define which tack then? /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
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...However, when sailing by the lee
or directly downwind, her leeward side is the side on which her mainsail lies.
[/ QUOTE ]
OK, so back to Nelson - how did they define which tack then? /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
fireball
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Re: Windward side?
They didn't bother - they just fired canons at each other until one sank out of the way or gave up. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
They didn't bother - they just fired canons at each other until one sank out of the way or gave up. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
