northwind
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Microcupper around 550-650kgs..
Swift 18
Anderson 22?
Swift 18
Anderson 22?
Goodbye Paean - help me choose another boat
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dansaskip
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As an alternative to a Wayfarer consider a Wanderer , a bit smaller and lighter and possible to camp out in. I found I could launch and recover mine singlehanded OK. Only I would feel happier in a trailer sailor as others have suggested for stability. Oh and the price might be a problem.
KINGFISHER 8
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+ 1 for the Swift 18.
newtothis
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He said he wanted something in which to pootle around the Solent, not do a circumnavigation.
PhillM
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PhillM
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Ok, perhaps I could do this the other way around. Things I do not want to pay for are:
Launch, lift and scrub
Mooring
Lots of maintenance work - either in time or paying someone else to do the work
Costs to be so high as to eat into my main goal of saving for that bigger boat
Need to upgrade my car to tow it - we have a Ford KA and a Hyundi i10 - either of which I could put a roof rack or tow bar on.
I have access to car parking and launch (slipway & 3t crane) at my sailing club .
Launch, lift and scrub
Mooring
Lots of maintenance work - either in time or paying someone else to do the work
Costs to be so high as to eat into my main goal of saving for that bigger boat
Need to upgrade my car to tow it - we have a Ford KA and a Hyundi i10 - either of which I could put a roof rack or tow bar on.
I have access to car parking and launch (slipway & 3t crane) at my sailing club .
Biggles Wader
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Well that narrows it down a bit. You want a Tinker tramp.
ProMariner
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For a thousand, you could get a great kayak/canoe/paddleboard, or an ok rowing boat, or a poor sailing dinghy. I know you see trailer sailers and pocket cruisers for a thousand or two, one careful owner (three owners ago) these boats are designed to bankrupt the unwary. I would get the rowing boat or the canoe. Actually, I went all in and bought an Orkney Skua at two thousand, as a knockabout boat, like a poor mans Drascome Scaffie / Cornish Cobble.
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TernVI
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For a thousand, you can get a very reasonable sailing dinghy which will give hours of racing if that's what you want.
If you are careful buying a dinghy, it keeps most of its value.
Many of the other options end up looking like poor value in £ per hour on the water.
If you're not going to use it most weeks, then sailing other people's boats is a good idea.
Canoes are good value, you can get something useable for £50 or less.
michael_w
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IRRC A Ford Ka isn't capable of towing anything.
jamie N
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Has anyone ever put a small day cabin on a Wayfarer? That with a 'bulb' keel adaptation might be an idea for someone, if not for PhillM.
A project for the winter for someone?
A project for the winter for someone?
chriss999
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A Dart 18 or similar won’t cost much, you shouldn’t capsize it and you can pack camping kit aboard. OK you’d scratch it when you beach it, but that may not affect resale price too much.
Jodel
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Have a look at this...
it might give you some inspiration.
it might give you some inspiration.
TernVI
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A quick look at ebay shows towbars for Ford Ka.
Maybe not every model.
PhillM
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as he says, perfect evening. Yep that’s the sort of thing I want to do for a year or so while the coffers swell enough to buy a blue water boat.
mrming
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It’s possible to get a decent condition older wooden GP14 for £1k. You could probably tow it a short distance and it would fit the brief of camping dinghy. If it’s in good nick to start with and you keep a cover on it there shouldn’t be much short term maintenance.
Neeves
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I understand the desire to save the cash for the real boat further down the track. But if you spend a bit more now you could have a yacht which will be a smaller version of what you want to eventually buy. When you buy the immediate boat it will be old enough to have had all the immediate depreciation squeezed out of it. If you look after the immediate vessel and conduct some professional maintenance I really don't see why you should not sell it, then, for what you paid for it now. But if you really enjoy camping in the winter - go for it.
Maybe I missed something, or am too much of a romantic.
Jonathan
Maybe I missed something, or am too much of a romantic.
Jonathan
PhillM
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The underlying problem is the mooring, I had a 8m Hamble river mooring and am now on the waiting list for a 10m one. I live 10 mins away, so I am stuck with Solent costs, so my plan is to sit on the waiting list for a year or two, save for the bigger boat (which like Paean I plan to keep for a decade) and just do some messing around in somthing very small as and when I have the time.
Stemar
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I can't help thinking that a camping dinghy is neither fish nor fowl - too big to manhandle easily ashore, but not big enough to camp comfortably or cope with that nasty chop the Solent can develop so quickly when wind and tide conspire against you. I can't help thinking that a better bet might be either a pocket cruiser that will get you home when the Solent has a strop or a smaller dinghy that you can use to pootle around exploring the Hamble above the bridges and up Southampton water in settled weather.
£1k is a nice easy figure to set, but doubling it isn't a whole lot more money, and would get you a lot more boat - or one you can use immediately instead of passing your time refurbishing it - and spending the other thousand doing it!
£1k is a nice easy figure to set, but doubling it isn't a whole lot more money, and would get you a lot more boat - or one you can use immediately instead of passing your time refurbishing it - and spending the other thousand doing it!
fredrussell
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How about a Walker bay 8 with the sailing kit? That way, when you do buy the big boat, you already have the tender.
