Gib to Canaries/ Cap Verde Islands

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I am thinking of sailing from Gib area to Canaries or Cap Verde Islands in late November before crossing to Barbados in December. Having done some reading I wonder if the second half of November for the Canaries/ Cap Verde trip is a bit late and will lead to stronger winds. Obviously I don't want to leave for the main crossing until early December.
Any advice appreciated.
 

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I am thinking of sailing from Gib area to Canaries or Cap Verde Islands in late November before crossing to Barbados in December. Having done some reading I wonder if the second half of November for the Canaries/ Cap Verde trip is a bit late and will lead to stronger winds. Obviously I don't want to leave for the main crossing until early December.
Any advice appreciated.
I’d be wary at that time but if you can wait for the right weather window there is no need to be too concerned. If you are on a time table then better to go earlier.

One thing to say is that most Canaries marinas are packed from September to January so book ahead and accept that they wI’ll always accept a September-end December booking in preference to a December only booking. We have found there has been some room in Arrecife, Lanzarote, Santa Cruz in Tenerife (choice of chandlers) and San Sebastian in La Gomera, plus Las Palmas, but I’m sure lots of the others have vacancies here and there
 
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I've made the passage from The Canaries to Cape Verdes a few times, ranging from October through to end of January. No problem.

Gib to Canaries and the reverse in most months of the year. Going south is by far the easiest!

Rupert is spot on with the need to book from next month onwards. Last year everywhere was packed with queues of yachts waiting at anchor to get in some places.

Enjoy your trip. (y)
 

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Thanks for the very useful replies.
The reason for leaving the trip from Gib to the Canaries until towards the end of November was that I planned to just anchor around the Canaries for a few days and then head on either to Cap Verde or across the pond without stopping for more than a night or two in a marina to get water and fuel etc.
I assume the Orcas will still be North in Biscay in November?
Yes, Bajansailor, I found your post to John-morris very helpful and have taken a copy. I will hope to see you in Barbados if fortune allows us to make it there. At sea I take nothing for granted!
 

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Following- we have almost the same plan.
We haven't booked a marina in the Canaries yet. I contacted La Gomera but they said to contact them a fortnight before arrival to book. Which seems to be leaving things a bit late...
 

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I've made the passage from The Canaries to Cape Verdes a few times, ranging from October through to end of January. No problem.

Gib to Canaries and the reverse in most months of the year. Going south is by far the easiest!

Rupert is spot on with the need to book from next month onwards. Last year everywhere was packed with queues of yachts waiting at anchor to get in some places.

Enjoy your trip. (y)
Oh cripes. I had no idea that the Canaries would have no room in the marinas around October to December. Serves me right for not keeping up but living on past visits so many years ago. I can believe what you write because the Mediterranean has become overcrowded. Pity I did not connect the dots to places outside the Mediterranean.

Now I have a major problem, which again is my own fault. My passport expires January 7th 2023. I left for my boat in Greece knowing this, but unwilling to delay for the expected 10 week to renew the passport. My brilliant plan was to sail to the Canaries, put the boat in one of the empty marinas I recall from my past, fly home to wait out the renew time before re-joining the boat with a crispy new passport.

I will have to keep to this plan and hope for the best. I cannot book because I am still in Greece and the Med transit is not so reliable to keep to a plan because of fickle weather.

Any advice would be gratefully recieved. I have only caught up with reality a few hours ago from this thread so I have not had time to look into this. My plan is to leave Greece early September fo Gibraltar. The rest of my plan has disintergrated with this horrible news. Thanks.
 

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Oh cripes. I had no idea that the Canaries would have no room in the marinas around October to December. Serves me right for not keeping up but living on past visits so many years ago. I can believe what you write because the Mediterranean has become overcrowded. Pity I did not connect the dots to places outside the Mediterranean.

Now I have a major problem, which again is my own fault. My passport expires January 7th 2023. I left for my boat in Greece knowing this, but unwilling to delay for the expected 10 week to renew the passport. My brilliant plan was to sail to the Canaries, put the boat in one of the empty marinas I recall from my past, fly home to wait out the renew time before re-joining the boat with a crispy new passport.

I will have to keep to this plan and hope for the best. I cannot book because I am still in Greece and the Med transit is not so reliable to keep to a plan because of fickle weather.

Any advice would be gratefully recieved. I have only caught up with reality a few hours ago from this thread so I have not had time to look into this. My plan is to leave Greece early September fo Gibraltar. The rest of my plan has disintergrated with this horrible news. Thanks.
As I said earlier there are a small number of marinas which might have space - probably the most likely are San Sebastián in La Gomera and La Palma marina (everybody cleared out with the eruption last year although many have gone back). Santa Cruz de Tenerife is where we stayed but over the last 3 years it’s gone from plenty of space in busy season (Sept-Jan) to just a few spaces but it’s a possibility and much better connected than the other two. You should call/contact them but you will need a lot of luck given its already mid-August.
 

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As I said earlier there are a small number of marinas which might have space - probably the most likely are San Sebastián in La Gomera and La Palma marina (everybody cleared out with the eruption last year although many have gone back). Santa Cruz de Tenerife is where we stayed but over the last 3 years it’s gone from plenty of space in busy season (Sept-Jan) to just a few spaces but it’s a possibility and much better connected than the other two. You should call/contact them but you will need a lot of luck given its already mid-August.
Thanks, thinking more about this, another possible solution has occurred to me. I could break off in Almerimar and haul out then fly home from there. Not ideal, because it would delay the passage to Canaries to mid December. I am not sure of the gale frequency in December but would be better than wasting a whole year for the window to precess(?) in Southern Spain.
 
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Thanks, thinking more about this, another possible solution has occurred to me. I could break off in Almerimar and haul out then fly home from there. Not ideal, because it would delay the passage to Canaries to mid December. I am not sure of the gale frequency in December but would be better than wasting a whole year for the window to precess(?) in Southern Spain.
One other option - and a cheap and safe one too which what seemed to be loads of spaces - is to go to the marvellous modern marina at Rabat. That gets you out of Shengen so no limitations. We had an impromptu stay there on the way down to the Canaries when we had a weird leak. Friendly (in a French sort of way) very professional marina with a few liveaboards and super cheap fees. And the city itself is well connected to international flights plus Rabat and Sale are fascinating places to stay.

We would have been completely at home if our French had been better as everybody speaks that as well as Moroccan but even so it was a safe but enjoyable stay, with slightly fierce but entirely reasonable customs people who meet you at the dock after the marina pilot boat has escorted you from the outer harbour to the marina.
 

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One other option - and a cheap and safe one too which what seemed to be loads of spaces - is to go to the marvellous modern marina at Rabat. That gets you out of Shengen so no limitations. We had an impromptu stay there on the way down to the Canaries when we had a weird leak. Friendly (in a French sort of way) very professional marina with a few liveaboards and super cheap fees. And the city itself is well connected to international flights plus Rabat and Sale are fascinating places to stay.

We would have been completely at home if our French had been better as everybody speaks that as well as Moroccan but even so it was a safe but enjoyable stay, with slightly fierce but entirely reasonable customs people who meet you at the dock after the marina pilot boat has escorted you from the outer harbour to the marina.
A great suggestion which I would never had thought of. I still have the mind baggage of early times when it was advised to steer clear of that coast for fear of getting ones throat cut. Cruising in a sailboat is so comparitively slow that the old proverb that it is immpossible to step in the same stream (river) twice applies. Catch up is a sobering process for me.

However, the changes are also political. To enter many countries a passport must be valid for three month from the planned exit. It would be better to stay inside EU which brings up the problem of Shengen and the Canaries. I may need three month on the passport there also. In which case Almerimar here I come.

Thanks for the suggestion, it is all a matter of timing of arrival whether different approaches will work. I accept that this problem is all my own fault.
 

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Another option is to fast track your passport renewal, not dramatically more expensive than the 10 week slow route.

I will certainly check that out. The last time I looked, it was necessary to travel to UK for an interview. I hold a British Passport but I am a resident of Sweden. I can only apply on-line from Sweden because that is my proven legal address. I will check if I can do this via an embassy or consulate in Canaries or Spain. Thanks for the reminder.
 

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Another option is to fast track your passport renewal, not dramatically more expensive than the 10 week slow route.
Well I checked it out and instead of getting good news the time for renewal has been extended to 11 weeks. I am a resident of Sweden which is the address for a passport return. Fast track applications are not available for citizens applying from outside the UK.

However, for a return to a resident country the resident card needs the accompaning passport to be valid on the expiry date only. That is no minimum extra time like 3 or 6 month before the expiry date before being allowed in. Makes sense.
 
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