Genoa Sheets essential?

[jimi]

Don't siuppose they are for a lot of sailors ;-)

 

[KellysEye]

There was as survey of 7,000 boats in Solent marinas and moorings and the average time spent sailing a year was less than a minute. So most of the boats don't go out and don't need genoa sheets other than for show.

 

[jerrytug]

I avoid the issue by calling them jibsheets!

 

[johnalison]

I avoid the issue by calling them jibsheets!

... which is probably a misnomer, since most of us carry a foresail and not a jib.

 

[Stork_III]

... which is probably a misnomer, since most of us carry a foresail and not a jib.

Not if you are buying the boat that NPMR did, See other thread. Seems that boat did not have For Sale sheets.

 

[sailorman]

There was as survey of 7,000 boats in Solent marinas and moorings and the average time spent sailing a year was less than a minute. So most of the boats don't go out and don't need genoa sheets other than for show.

Or for tying-up along side me

 

[Vara]

Plural? Can't afford two, so run it round the mast on going about

 

[jac]

There was as survey of 7,000 boats in Solent marinas and moorings and the average time spent sailing a year was less than a minute. So most of the boats don't go out and don't need genoa sheets other than for show.

Are you sure about that?

Less than a minute a year across 7000 boats = 7000 minutes
7000 minutes = 116 hours.

So of all the boats in the Solent, in total, they only sail for 116 total hours? Given that the RTIR race alone has about 1500 competitors can we assume that every single boat makes it round the island in about 4 1/2 minutes and then never goes out again?

 

[benjenbav]

Genoa. Sheets essential.

In northern Italy it's often too warm for a duvet but you still don't want to run the risk of a draught.

 

[photodog]

This thread needs a poll

 

[boguing]

I think that the question is bit rich coming from somebody too mean to tick the optional tiller to rudder connection option when he specced his boat.

 

[Buck Turgidson]

If you want to use a Genoa I would say yes. Otherwise no.

 

[Koeketiene]

I avoid the issue by calling them jibsheets!

We call them blue rope and red rope.
Not a lot of nautical lingo on board our boat.

 

[Koeketiene]

Or for tying-up along side me

Really - those must be the boats that used to raft up to us or park in our berth because 'they had a swindlery voucher' (I kid you not )

 

[prv]

... which is probably a misnomer, since most of us carry a foresail and not a jib.

Staysail, surely?

The only foresail I'm familiar with is the gaff sail on a schooner's foremast. But of course nautical language is such a vague and swirling soup that I'm sure the term is used for other things as well

Pete

 

[alan_d]

Staysail, surely?

The only foresail I'm familiar with is the gaff sail on a schooner's foremast. But of course nautical language is such a vague and swirling soup that I'm sure the term is used for other things as well

Pete

I don't think the soup is quite as vague or swirling as you suggest.

The traditional nomenclature was that a sail was named after the mast or stay on which it was set. Thus the mainsail is so called because it is set on the mainmast (not because it is the principal sail), and as you say, a foresail is a sail set on the foremast (of, for example, a schooner).

In a traditional gaff cutter working rig, the two sails before the mast are thus the forestaysail and the foretopmaststaysail, and for brevity the latter was nicknamed a "jib" after a similar, but not identical, sail on a square rigger. Bermud(i)an rigged sloops do not have a separate topmast, so the single headsail can be thought of as a substitute for either the forestaysail or the jib of the cutter. "Forestaysail" is a bit of a mouthful so tends to get shortened to "foresail" or "staysail". "Genoa" is a contraction of "Genoa jib", a large headsail which overlaps the mainsail.

HTH

 

[prv]

The traditional nomenclature was that a sail was named after the mast or stay on which it was set. Thus the mainsail is so called because it is set on the mainmast (not because it is the principal sail), and as you say, a foresail is a sail set on the foremast (of, for example, a schooner).

In a traditional gaff cutter working rig, the two sails before the mast are thus the forestaysail and the foretopmaststaysail, and for brevity the latter was nicknamed a "jib" after a similar, but not identical, sail on a square rigger. Bermud(i)an rigged sloops do not have a separate topmast, so the single headsail can be thought of as a substitute for either the forestaysail or the jib of the cutter. "Forestaysail" is a bit of a mouthful so tends to get shortened to "foresail" or "staysail". "Genoa" is a contraction of "Genoa jib", a large headsail which overlaps the mainsail.

None of that news to me, except for shortening "forestaysail" to "foresail" instead of "staysail" . But clearly some people do name it that way; great confusion was caused the one time I sailed on Pelican when the "sailing master" was referring to the gaff sail on the foremast, but the relief captain thought he meant one of the headsails! Pelican has a very odd rig with a square-rigged mainmast but a foremast that looks like it's off a schooner, complete with fisherman staysail.

Still a certain amount of soupy swirling, as some people define the difference between a jib and a staysail as whether it's set flying or to a stay.

Pete

 

[Contest1]

Essential for me as I often sail on the unfurled headsail only for a spin out across high tide!
Berth is +_2.

 

[wotayottie]

No. Pal has a Freedom schooner which has no genoa sheets

 

[alan_d]

None of that news to me, except for shortening "forestaysail" to "foresail" instead of "staysail" . Pete

Sorry, Granny, but perhaps some of the other readers might have benefitted from the refresher on egg-sucking.