Frightening Ignorance

[claymore]

Re: Inconsistent Advice

Hmm
I spent an interesting couple of hours in Tarbert (L.Fyne) watching an Instructor getting each of the crew in turn to come alongside a pontoon. All approaching from upwind, no sails, far too quickly - including his demo and all reliant on shovelsful of reverse - including his demo.
If they'd come onto my boat and tried to do it the way they were being taught I think I would have had words.
As far as the forum goes - its my experience that people tend to contribute when they have something to say or they have something they wish to learn.
In that respect the forum is excellent and achieves what it sets out to do. If people are incorrect then its very rare that that goes unchallenged.

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Claymore
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[tcm]

Re: Inconsistent Advice

i agree. We still haven't got out of Dominic what the factual errors in the liferaft thread might be.

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[sailbadthesinner]

Re: Inconsistent Advice

have to say that this is one that theory tends to rule as (thankfully) experience of this of liferafts is fairly limited. And i would lob in a sea survival course as theory too. I agree about the differences instructors.
EVERY charter boat i have had they have insisted in one of about six ways of doing various bits and i always guess the wrong one.

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[Peppermint]

Frightened of Ignorance?

I hope not. It's where we all start out on a number of subjects.

Some tend to over dramatize sailing into something difficult. If you simplify it down to getting from A to B by boat without drownings, damage or inconvienience to others and have a bit of fun on the way thats all there is to it. How to achieve this objective is a broad church with a large choice of boat types, equipment and techniques to choose from. To attempt to cram this onto rails and go in search of the one true method is perhaps not what most of us require.

As to liferafts I don't own one. I know three guys who have used one. The first had to stay with the vessel as dragging the liferaft out of the quarter berth set it off and he had to use a bread knife to get out of the cabin. The second had just whizzbanged out of a Hawker Hunter and everything worked as advertised. The third was a guy I met in a pub in Lymington. He'd got in one during the Fastnet Storm. In the morning, having spent the night rolling down 40ft waves he had less people with him than when he started. He thought they were crap and unless the boat was on fire nothing would get him into another.

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[AndrewB]

Sorry, Dominic.

I see now you were referring to Bedouin's thread 'More liferafts', and you did post some comments there in response.

That thread was not entirely serious, you realise, though perhaps some contributors did not cotton on.



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[Sybarite]

I haven't read all the thread so excuse me if I'm doubling up. I attended the servicing of my liferaft. It was very useful and I recommend you doing this if you can.

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[billmacfarlane]

If you're basing the fact that you think some of the answers are dangerously misleading because they don't agree with some RYA syllabus , which I think you must be or why mention the fact that you're an RYA thingy at all , then perhaps you're missing something . Some of the people on this thread are very experienced sailors and maybe they're views based on long hours at sea are in fact more useful than someone spouting an RYA syllabus.

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[Heckler]

and the worst one i met was in rhyl about

35 yrds ago, who strutted about letting everyone know that he was a master mariner, i asked him which hand he used !!

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