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Nick_H said:
I didn't particularly warm to him personally, but I thought the owner of Turquoise seemed genuinely enthusiastic about boating, likewise the Raymond guy who plans a year long circumnavigation on his next boat. They may like different aspects of boating to you, but I think it's unfair to suggest that they're only doing it to show off. Also, don't forget that the superyacht owners that want to be on a TV show won't be representative of all, or even most, owners, many of whom buy yachts partly for the privacy they afford.
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I've given this a bit of thought - not a lot, but a bit. The thing I keep coming back to is that these boats are over 24m WLL which means that even if the owner is willing to ignore the legal requirement for qualified crew and minimum staffing levels the insurers will demand that a qualified captain and crew are employed. Once you've got a captain you're not going to be allowed to drive your own boat unless you've got the correct ticket. OK, you might get a turn on the helm out in open water with beady eyes watching your every move, but that's your lot. You certainly aren't going to do the passage planning or close-quarters boat handling. And then there's the issue of not being able to get into small harbours.

I don't have any opinions about the individuals concerned as to whether they are nice or not, that's not my point. What I am saying is that their idea of boating and mine are two very different things.
 
BruceK said:
On that score he let himself down by wanting a helipad, for show, because it ticked a box and even though it couldn't be used given the size of the boat it was a nice problem to have. No, he may be enthusiastic about boating, but there was a lot of show still involved. I did warm to his boat Turquoise though. Of all those shown it seemed to be the only sane one w.r.t. interior taste and furnishings.
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I only saw the prog last night, so catching up late on all this. I don't think he was saying the touch-and-go pad couldn't be used, he was saying it wouldn't get used. There's definitely room on a 50m for a viable touch-and-go pad (depending on the yacht design, of course).
 
TwoHooter said:
I've given this a bit of thought - not a lot, but a bit. The thing I keep coming back to is that these boats are over 24m WLL which means that even if the owner is willing to ignore the legal requirement for qualified crew and minimum staffing levels the insurers will demand that a qualified captain and crew are employed. Once you've got a captain you're not going to be allowed to drive your own boat unless you've got the correct ticket. OK, you might get a turn on the helm out in open water with beady eyes watching your every move, but that's your lot. You certainly aren't going to do the passage planning or close-quarters boat handling. And then there's the issue of not being able to get into small harbours.

I don't have any opinions about the individuals concerned as to whether they are nice or not, that's not my point. What I am saying is that their idea of boating and mine are two very different things.
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There's definitely one regular mobo contributor here who does have the right ticket - but I do agree your point, there's not much fun to be had if you're not allowed to drive your own boat.
 
jimmy_the_builder said:
There's definitely one regular mobo contributor here who does have the right ticket - but I do agree your point, there's not much fun to be had if you're not allowed to drive your own boat.
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I think you may find they have enought outlets to scratch that itch .
Eg a SS pred 68 on the tender deck -may be a Riva too.
Also A N other smaller -normal esq boat in another location . They also eat fish n chips in the paper and like white sauce on a large Donna after a few beers .
 
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petem said:
Ha ha!
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Lols - brilliant!

The engine cost probably included a minimum run time and warm down period according to the manufacturers specifications. Would these diesels be air-started? They must be rates for say 1000 starts between overhauls or something; just like fancy sails have a per-tack cost? Add to that the cost of the scrubbers and probably the soft time in alerting port authorities that you will run engines, etc. Plus crew time etc (i.e. if you had a team of qualified people, what's the cost for them to assemble and run through prestart, start, idle, minimum runtime, warmdown (possibly skipped) and shut off, stack cleanse and paperwork completion ... it's a big job.

Just being over 24m doesn't mean that it has to go into commercial class or minimum manning programs. But it's unusual for it not to. A private yacht (even in class) is pretty much laid up most of its life at anchor, along side, or being sent to locations where its owner hopes to go, but cannot because of changing schedules.

And that sucks. But a bunch of enthusiasts could certainly handle it. Insurance is a bit harder. But can be done. The tickets aren't that hard to do. You've just got to do a trip from Scotland to Italy or Wales to the South of France or Amsterdam to Geeece, or a circumnavigation of the Med, then sit some tests. Easy as pie. Jist make sure you take a tin of custard with you and photograph yourself with it in every port, else people won't believe you ;-)
 
Bouba said:
Not only that he has discovered 'the lounge' before I had the chance to warn him that minds not fit for sea, patrol its murky waters :nonchalance:
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Thanks Bouba and Richard C!

Yes, starting to get a sense of humour! ;-)

Doctor told me recently to get a hobby and make some new friends - so I bought a boat and joined this forum. Looking forward to seeing her face when I report back. Doubt that was what she had in mind!!

[Which part is 'the lounge' - is that where custard comes from?!]
 
Capital_R said:
Thanks Bouba and Richard C!

Yes, starting to get a sense of humour! ;-)

Doctor told me recently to get a hobby and make some new friends - so I bought a boat and joined this forum. Looking forward to seeing her face when I report back. Doubt that was what she had in mind!!

[Which part is 'the lounge' - is that where custard comes from?!]
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The lounge is where you posted about ANZAC day
 
The custard test originated came from a different forum where they would tear you limb from limb. Not suitable for someone who has sought medical advice from a real doctor !

The motorboat forum has a genteel ambience matched only by gardeners question time online although that can get a bit out of hand if you question someones method for controlling greenfly as i found out to my cost. An ugly time in my life resolved only when friends from the regiment got involved. Thankfully for all involved the media never got wind of it.
 
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Hull complete and ready for the dock to be flooded. No galley yet, no guest cabins, and no teak deck either. But anchors, engines, crew quarters (nice enough anyway) and bridge controls are aparantly working. So that's something.

Also on the list is custard. ��
 
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The top sides look rough and ibdont knownwhat the metal belting is for. But this will get it to the med for final fit out.

Heres a pic of another yacht (mangusta 42m?)... pre bog and buff... so i dont feel so bad. But it's not like a wooden boat!

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