Powersalt
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Yes , interesting thought. Wonder if they have more news at the show, But I would want a bit more room that the current 40. Has anyone ever ordered a mass produced boat from plans I wonder
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Yes , interesting thought. Wonder if they have more news at the show, But I would want a bit more room that the current 40. Has anyone ever ordered a mass produced boat from plans I wonder
Powersalt
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Jimmy you went Princess toute last year.... was that for build quality ???? Fairline seem so much more agreeable to talk deals. Did you do any good with Princess??
cataldo
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flybridge 42
princess 42 is still the nicest
I think
princess 42 is still the nicest
I think
Divemaster1
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Had a boat from Skorgenes many years ago myself .... Tell me what you want to know ... if you want some more information, I'll give them a call, mail them or whatever ...being a Norwagian I should be OK with th language at least.... heck I may start a boaty business myself ... at least there may be a demonstrator in it somewhere...
, but I am aftaid that they may already have some sort of deal here in the UK ... which I can find out about if interested...
jimmy_the_builder
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I bought the P42 because I wanted to try a flybridge, and of the mainstream choices (P42, Phantom 40, Sealine F42/5) the Princess was for me easily the best product. Dealwise it was a very different market when we bought the P42 (deal done in March 08) so I don't think it bears much comparison to the current market. At the end of the day, all these boats are built for stock, rather than to order, and afaik the discounts available vary directly with the level of stock of any particular model, certainly for Princess and Fairline, in my direct experience. I still think the P42 is the best of the 40ft flybridges, and it is definitely the case that the Princess after-sales service is exemplary.
Cheers
Jimmy
Powersalt
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Had a boat from Skorgenes many years ago myself .... Tell me what you want to know ... if you want some more information, I'll give them a call, mail them or whatever ...being a Norwagian I should be OK with th language at least.... heck I may start a boaty business myself ... at least there may be a demonstrator in it somewhere...
yeh I have sent them an e mail and will see what happens
Powersalt
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Yes but at the end of the day you bought a fairline!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jimmy_the_builder
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That's because I wanted to try a flybridge - so I bought the P42, but I didn't like the whole f/b thing (been discussed here ad infinitum), so I sold it and bought another sportcruiser. In fact I very nearly bought a Princess V45 at the London boat show (I even paid a deposit) but it proved to be too tricky to get it exactly the way I wanted, so I bought the T40 instead. And what a cracker it has turned out to be!
Mind you, the new Princess V52 does look a bit special, can't wait to see one in the flesh...
Cheers
Jimmy
yankee1
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42 Flybridge
I think Jimmy's point is the most important...you really have to think through what you intend to do with the boat. It is a reversible decision, but changing direction will cost you. I spent a lot of time looking at all the options in the 42 range. Ultimately I saw the Princess 42 as the best option for us. The reality is that for most people they will spend far more time stationary than moving, so comfort is a key consideration. I also wanted the best in terms of engineering and the safety that comes with a well designed and built boat. The last factor is resale. I am sure a couple of the boats mentioned are good boats, but you have to think about the possible problems you will have in selling them. How well will it hold it's value and how long it will take to sell both are factors we considered. Finally service was a significant factor for us as we wanted a new boat. Princess has been fantastic both in the sale process as well as after sales.
If you decide to go with a Princess, let me know and I would be happy to help with more information.
I think Jimmy's point is the most important...you really have to think through what you intend to do with the boat. It is a reversible decision, but changing direction will cost you. I spent a lot of time looking at all the options in the 42 range. Ultimately I saw the Princess 42 as the best option for us. The reality is that for most people they will spend far more time stationary than moving, so comfort is a key consideration. I also wanted the best in terms of engineering and the safety that comes with a well designed and built boat. The last factor is resale. I am sure a couple of the boats mentioned are good boats, but you have to think about the possible problems you will have in selling them. How well will it hold it's value and how long it will take to sell both are factors we considered. Finally service was a significant factor for us as we wanted a new boat. Princess has been fantastic both in the sale process as well as after sales.
If you decide to go with a Princess, let me know and I would be happy to help with more information.
Powersalt
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Yes I guess thats a very important point easily forgotten. Re sale values and ease of selling. I just cant believe dealers arnt willing to do deals at the moment but if I had my real choice I would buy one year old where you have got someone else to do all the work of fixing the bugs.
Did you have many with the Princess?
Did you have many with the Princess?
yankee1
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42 flybridge
Just minor issues. When you think about the complexity of a boat, you have to expect some snag list items to surface within the first couple of months. Happy to say that the after sales program at Princess is as they promised. No complaining, they just fix it in a very timely manner. IT also happens to be a great boat! Good luck in your search.
Just minor issues. When you think about the complexity of a boat, you have to expect some snag list items to surface within the first couple of months. Happy to say that the after sales program at Princess is as they promised. No complaining, they just fix it in a very timely manner. IT also happens to be a great boat! Good luck in your search.
acbruce
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Go slower
How about the Beneteau Swift Trawler 42. We love ours; it has a great saloon, two ggod cabins, a great flybridge, good range, you just have to be content with 18-20knts cruising.
Side gate makes it a dodle to board!
How about the Beneteau Swift Trawler 42. We love ours; it has a great saloon, two ggod cabins, a great flybridge, good range, you just have to be content with 18-20knts cruising.
Side gate makes it a dodle to board!
henryf
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I`ve had our Princess 42 for a couple of years or so now and am happy to say that if I could turn back time I would still have signed on the dotted line.
I looked at the Fairline Phantom 40 (being the owner of an older Phantom 42 at the time). I had assumed we`d be going down the Fairline route but felt the 40 was just that bit smaller in every respect than our old 42 and it also seemed a bit more spartan inside. Less wood, more vinyl. The flybridge came with a few more toys, all be it at the expense of open space.
The Sealine F42/5 was let down by quality issues for me. I went on a few and they all had bits broken, leaks and so on. If truth be told I also struggled to see the benefit of that sliding transom. With our Princess P42 we`ve never lacked cockpit space and the bathing platform swallows up a good sized rigid hull tender with ease. Where does your tender go when you extend the transom?
The Nordwest 42 was a boat that I didn`t get to see before buying the Princess and when I did see it I was worried I`d think I`d made the wrong decision, especially as it won boat of the year (a couple of times I think). I don`t know who votes in these things but I`d love to know what was going on in their heads. Within 15 seconds I knew it wasn`t even a contender. A sit up and beg dining table in the lounge area that you couldn`t lounge in. Nor would it fit all the boat`s occupants in, the salesman tried to convince me that the cockpit area was to be seen as an extension to the saloon / lounge. Not on our boat it wouldn`t in January or February !
Azimut were a bit too "cutting edge" for my liking and the less well established (in the UK) manufacturers all had their niggles asside from having to explain what the thing was when it came time to sell on. The Prestige 42 was a boat which appealed from a quick glance outside but stepping aboard at the London boat show put me off compared to the Princess.
Bear in mind the Princess 42 is actually around 45 feet long depending how you measure it so it`s not surprising everywhere has enough space. Both heads have walk in tube showers that you can actually use without drowning the room. Little things like the Dometic electric flush toilets are a lovely touch which really add to the feeling of quality when aboard.
Having had a good poke round the installation of services is superb. Everything is labeled, run neatly and accessible. We`ve had the odd niggle but all dealt with to perfection by Swanwick. I`ve got an outstanding issue with a Furuno chart plotter / radar which has never been quite right from day one and to be honest it`s probably my lack of moaning that`s let it drag on. I`m a bit too laid back, but that`s a measure of how well Princess look after their customers. You don`t feel the usual need to put everything down in writing and document things as you would do with most companies to ensure they don`t wriggle.
Engine-wise I wanted plain old shaft drives which pretty much look after themselves. We had outdrives on a Fairline Targa so I know their maintenance requirements and I wasn`t confident enough to commit to IPS, I can`t think they are any cheaper than outdrives to maintain and should anything go wrong I bet it`s more expensive to fix than a stainless steel shaft or a cutlass bearing! The Volvo D6`s pop the old girl straight up onto the plane and close quarters handling is a dream thanks to the electronic controls.
Is there anything I`d change? Yes. I fancy a full beam owner`s cabin and a separate dining area. I think they call it the P50 (or P54 if you`re feeling flush) !!
In all the time I`ve owned the P42 I`ve not heard a bad word spoken about them (and I`ve been listening), so that only bodes well come re-sale. I wonder if the same can be said for all the other boats out there.
I too will be casting my eye around on Sunday (and possibly Monday) at the show just to see what`s out there. I look with a very wide field of vision which even includes displacement craft (though not boats with big poles sticking out of the roof and bed sheets tied on just yet).
No associated with Princess etc, etc......
All the best and good luck on your hunt.
Henry
I looked at the Fairline Phantom 40 (being the owner of an older Phantom 42 at the time). I had assumed we`d be going down the Fairline route but felt the 40 was just that bit smaller in every respect than our old 42 and it also seemed a bit more spartan inside. Less wood, more vinyl. The flybridge came with a few more toys, all be it at the expense of open space.
The Sealine F42/5 was let down by quality issues for me. I went on a few and they all had bits broken, leaks and so on. If truth be told I also struggled to see the benefit of that sliding transom. With our Princess P42 we`ve never lacked cockpit space and the bathing platform swallows up a good sized rigid hull tender with ease. Where does your tender go when you extend the transom?
The Nordwest 42 was a boat that I didn`t get to see before buying the Princess and when I did see it I was worried I`d think I`d made the wrong decision, especially as it won boat of the year (a couple of times I think). I don`t know who votes in these things but I`d love to know what was going on in their heads. Within 15 seconds I knew it wasn`t even a contender. A sit up and beg dining table in the lounge area that you couldn`t lounge in. Nor would it fit all the boat`s occupants in, the salesman tried to convince me that the cockpit area was to be seen as an extension to the saloon / lounge. Not on our boat it wouldn`t in January or February !
Azimut were a bit too "cutting edge" for my liking and the less well established (in the UK) manufacturers all had their niggles asside from having to explain what the thing was when it came time to sell on. The Prestige 42 was a boat which appealed from a quick glance outside but stepping aboard at the London boat show put me off compared to the Princess.
Bear in mind the Princess 42 is actually around 45 feet long depending how you measure it so it`s not surprising everywhere has enough space. Both heads have walk in tube showers that you can actually use without drowning the room. Little things like the Dometic electric flush toilets are a lovely touch which really add to the feeling of quality when aboard.
Having had a good poke round the installation of services is superb. Everything is labeled, run neatly and accessible. We`ve had the odd niggle but all dealt with to perfection by Swanwick. I`ve got an outstanding issue with a Furuno chart plotter / radar which has never been quite right from day one and to be honest it`s probably my lack of moaning that`s let it drag on. I`m a bit too laid back, but that`s a measure of how well Princess look after their customers. You don`t feel the usual need to put everything down in writing and document things as you would do with most companies to ensure they don`t wriggle.
Engine-wise I wanted plain old shaft drives which pretty much look after themselves. We had outdrives on a Fairline Targa so I know their maintenance requirements and I wasn`t confident enough to commit to IPS, I can`t think they are any cheaper than outdrives to maintain and should anything go wrong I bet it`s more expensive to fix than a stainless steel shaft or a cutlass bearing! The Volvo D6`s pop the old girl straight up onto the plane and close quarters handling is a dream thanks to the electronic controls.
Is there anything I`d change? Yes. I fancy a full beam owner`s cabin and a separate dining area. I think they call it the P50 (or P54 if you`re feeling flush) !!
In all the time I`ve owned the P42 I`ve not heard a bad word spoken about them (and I`ve been listening), so that only bodes well come re-sale. I wonder if the same can be said for all the other boats out there.
I too will be casting my eye around on Sunday (and possibly Monday) at the show just to see what`s out there. I look with a very wide field of vision which even includes displacement craft (though not boats with big poles sticking out of the roof and bed sheets tied on just yet).
No associated with Princess etc, etc......
All the best and good luck on your hunt.
Henry
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Powersalt
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Thanks for a very infomative note and advice. Just wondering what engines you have in yours and what you think of the power to fuel economy. Which brings me onto another question> a couple of years ago we were always told, get the bigger engines its a good investment etc etc. But now with fuel costs so high and many peeps slowing down to low cruising speeds are you better to work a bit harder with less fuel guzling engines???
Yes I keep an interest in the p42, just wish it was a bit more different than the models also sold 5 years ago, I mean looking at the extras list even the electrics are a bit dated as I cant imagine who would not want digital radar on a new boat now. Hey and just looking did you know the bow thruster is even an extra!!!
Yes prestige 42, is not the same build quality.... but I would get to keep back £100,000
All very confusing
Yes I keep an interest in the p42, just wish it was a bit more different than the models also sold 5 years ago, I mean looking at the extras list even the electrics are a bit dated as I cant imagine who would not want digital radar on a new boat now. Hey and just looking did you know the bow thruster is even an extra!!!
Yes prestige 42, is not the same build quality.... but I would get to keep back £100,000
All very confusing
Powersalt
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Went out on one of the first built, had the straight seat in the saloon if I remember right. Yes really liked much about it but somehow wanted to cruise at circa 25
Powersalt
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Just add wished now I brought Jimmys earlier this year
Nick_H
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Doesn't the bathing platform also extend out, with the tender still on it? I think it's a great idea, although i'd still go for the Princess in preference.
Renegade_Master
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lets see piccie of your p42 Henry
henryf
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Photos as requested
Tried for half an hour to embed the photos or a link to the photos on our server but this site kept crashing and I gave up in the end.
Not sure if you`ll be able to see them
Sorry
Henry
Tried for half an hour to embed the photos or a link to the photos on our server but this site kept crashing and I gave up in the end.
Not sure if you`ll be able to see them
Sorry
Henry
Renegade_Master
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Now theres a good looking boat sir, the front view makes her look larger then she is, lovely boat, twould be my choice
