flag etiquette

[Scillypete]

Now I'm not a particular stickler about most of it but certain things I believe should be done right, so what do you think of this:

I'm not interested in the political aspect of it whichever side of the fence you sit on.

Blue ensign, ish, no club burgee is it real?

 

[EdWingfield]

I'm with you, I have no interest either.

 

[alahol2]

Well presumably he's in distress... did you go and check?

 

[JumbleDuck]

Now I'm not a particular stickler about most of it but certain things I believe should be done right, so what do you think of this:

I'm not interested in the political aspect of it whichever side of the fence you sit on.

Blue ensign, ish, no club burgee is it real?

The yacht Mahina Tiare III comes from Avatiu, which is a town on Raratonga in the Cook Islands, and this is the flag of the Cook Islands:

What aspect of flag etiquette are you worried about?

 

[Vega1447]

The yacht Mahina Tiare III comes from Avatiu, which is a town on Raratonga in the Cook Islands, and this is the flag of the Cook Islands:

What aspect of flag etiquette are you worried about?

I expect it looks a bit Yurp-ish for some..

 

[Scillypete]

Thanks Jumbleduck, that is more enlightening bleddy odd looking ensign

 

[JumbleDuck]

Thanks Jumbleduck, that is more enlightening bleddy odd looking ensign

Doesn't seem any odder than this (New Zealand)

or this (Australia)

or this (Pitcairn)

or this (Falkland Islands)

or this (St Helena}

or this (Ascension Island)

or this (Turks and Caicos)

or this (British Virgin islands)

or this (Cayman Islands)

or this (Anguilla)

or this (Montserrat)

or this (Tristan da Cunha)

or this (South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands)

 

[Scillypete]

On the screen not but once out of ones armchair and seeing it for real the fly is much longer than usual making the flag look all out of proportion unlike those of NZ, Australia, Falklands etc all of which I have seen flying and don't look disproportionate

 

[Kukri]

A related question: in July 1997 I turned up in Limehouse Basin flying this:


The Secretary of the C.A. came aboard, demanded that I take it down, inspected my Certificate of Registry, wrote me out a Warrant and sold me a C.A. defaced ensign on the spot!

I vainly protested that, since Hong Kong had ceased to be a Colony at the start of that month, I was flying the flag of nowhere at all and since I was in "Home Waters" I was entitled to do do... Lorna was having not nr of it!

 

[JumbleDuck]

On the screen not but once out of ones armchair and seeing it for real the fly is much longer than usual making the flag look all out of proportion unlike those of NZ, Australia, Falklands etc all of which I have seen flying and don't look disproportionate

So was that the etiquette point that was bothering you ... or did you think someone had combined the EU flag with the dodgy seamanship ensign? Looks like a normal 2:1 in the picture, anyway ...

 

[EdWingfield]

A related question: in July 1997 I turned up in Limehouse Basin flying this:
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The Secretary of the C.A. came aboard, demanded that I take it down, inspected my Certificate of Registry, wrote me out a Warrant and sold me a C.A. defaced ensign on the spot!

I vainly protested that, since Hong Kong had ceased to be a Colony at the start of that month, I was flying the flag of nowhere at all and since I was in "Home Waters" I was entitled to do do... Lorna was having not nr of it!

He might've gone far in the NAZI State. Incidentally, what authorisation did he have to issue a Warrant. I understood you needed a Magistrate for that?

 

[macd]

He might've gone far in the NAZI State.

A pedant might also have gone red (or possibly blue) in the face at the use of "fly" when describing an ensign. This is a well-worn issue, but in light airs, "dangle" is surely more apt.

 

[Kukri]

A Warrant to wear a defaced ensign can be issued by the Secretary of a privileged Club.

Lorna said that she was not bothered but she thought some senior members might be!

I wrote "flying the flag of nowhere" because the British Hong Kong ensign had ceased to have any legal standing - it wasn't an ensign, it was just a flag.

I've still got it and I may dig it out again some day..

 

[EdWingfield]

Mr Minn, no one is allowed to board our boats without permission (excepting Border Force, Port Health etc)

She cannot demand to see your papers. She cannot require you to buy stuff.

But YOU can say, If you do not remove yourself from my boat I will call Police.

 

[TiggerToo]

all I am interested in is: that's a bl@@dy long way from Porth Cressa.

The important questions are:

1) did they anchor or pick up one of those damned moorings littering the bay?
2) did they come ashore and partake of some essential trinkets from Gibson-Kyne's?

 

[RichardS]

Mr Minn, no one is allowed to board our boats without permission (excepting Border Force, Port Health etc)

She cannot demand to see your papers. She cannot require you to buy stuff.

But YOU can say, If you do not remove yourself from my boat I will call Police.

Errrrr .... I think you're taking Minn's post a bit too literally.

Richard

 

[wotayottie]

Now I'm not a particular stickler about most of it but certain things I believe should be done right, so what do you think of this:

I'm not interested in the political aspect of it whichever side of the fence you sit on.

Blue ensign, ish, no club burgee is it real?

I would have said that the boat was Deleted User's but I believe he drives a tart trap not a raggie

 

[Otter]

Mr Minn, no one is allowed to board our boats without permission (excepting Border Force, Port Health etc)

She cannot demand to see your papers. She cannot require you to buy stuff.

But YOU can say, If you do not remove yourself from my boat I will call Police.

Not so, any commissioned officer in the armed forces may board your boat specifically to check your entitlement to fly a particular ensign. Surely this never happens outside of the drug/fishery/trafficking world though.

 

[EdWingfield]

Mr Watson, if you re-read my post I said Border Force, Port Health etc.

But we are not talking about trafficking or smuggling. We are talking about Mr Minns brush wish the Cruising Association Sec. Richard S tells us the incident is, er, exaggerated?

 

[Fr J Hackett]

I still have the warrant, ensign and burgee from my last UK club, if I were to hoist/ wear the ensign at my house in SE France should I fly the burgee from the chimney? Should I be concerned about visits from HM forces be they Border or otherwise