Fitting a kill cord to a Seagull.

[sarabande]

I have the tiny Featherweight 2hp, and want to fit a kill cord to it, especially as it is direct drive to the propeller.

I don't fancy a system of earthing the HT lead, so what suggestions please , team ?


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[Spyro]

I fitted one to a 3.5 Johnson but it had a plastic casing that I drilled and mounted the switch on. The switch and lanyard was only a few pounds on ebay. I just cut into the wire going to the stop button, basically it just earths the ignition. You could probably find somewhere to strap a switch to on the handle.

I would probably try something like this on the handle.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Motorcycl...601?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4ad688cd61

 

[James_Calvert]

I always understood that the way to stop a Seagull in emergency was to stick your hand over the air intake.

Guess you'd have to stay on board for that though.

Exactly what Seagull powered manoeuvre did you have in mind that might throw you overboard anyway? Whatever it is, wouldn't it be simpler just never to do it?

 

[Lakesailor]

There is an idea here. Earthing is the way forward. http://www.saving-old-seagulls.co.uk/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?p=37605#p37605

 

[VicS]

I have the tiny Featherweight 2hp, and want to fit a kill cord to it, especially as it is direct drive to the propeller.

I don't fancy a system of earthing the HT lead, so what suggestions please , team ?


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You dont say exactly what model.

What is the number ( inparticular the first group of letters) stamped on the flange at the top of the drive shaft tube


If its one with points ignition ( but I dont think it is) then it may be possible to fit a switch to short the points to earth .

The MK4 Wipac CD ignition system has the provision to fit a kill switch. I'm not sure about the MK3 Wipac Its breaker less but it looks as though it may be posible to connect a kill switch

It may be worth asking on the Saving old Seagulls forum, but quote the model details if you do!

http://www.saving-old-seagulls.co.uk/phpbb3/

There is quite a bit of info on the SOS forums so worth also doing a search

 

[VicS]

There is an idea here. Earthing is the way forward. http://www.saving-old-seagulls.co.uk/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?p=37605#p37605

I dont think it has points ignition. Either a Mk3 or Mk4 Wipac I am sure

Mk3

Mk4

 

[DownWest]

I always understood that the way to stop a Seagull in emergency was to stick your hand over the air intake.
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Perhaps a spring loaded flap held open by a pin? Pin has 'kill'cord to wrist. Saves cutting into the ignition.

 

[Lakesailor]

If you follow the link in my earlier post it goes to a discusion on the SOS site. Weirdly someone in that thread links back to YBW.
One option offered is to tie a cord to your wrist and the other end to the HT lead!

 

[sarabande]

the motor number is EF27E8, which makes it produced in May 1988. It's as near as a dammit unused with no paint at all off the leading edge of the prop, unlike my venerable
Silver Century (1960s)

I've been speaking with John on Saving Old Seagulls - marvellous source of knowledge - and have ordered some oil/grease/plug etc for use in a spares box in the dinghy.

I'll look at the WIPAC CD ignition later to see if I can find which version. Thanks to both VicS and LS, and everyone else of course

 

[JumbleDuck]

I've been pondering this, and have been edging towards a 1/4" jack plug socket in the end of the tiller with the LT across it and enabled by a shorted out jack plug on a lanyard. Only at daydream stage so far.

 

[VicS]

the motor number is EF27E8, which makes it produced in May 1988. It's as near as a dammit unused with no paint at all off the leading edge of the prop, unlike my venerable
Silver Century (1960s)

I've been speaking with John on Saving Old Seagulls - marvellous source of knowledge - and have ordered some oil/grease/plug etc for use in a spares box in the dinghy.

I'll look at the WIPAC CD ignition later to see if I can find which version. Thanks to both VicS and LS, and everyone else of course

Could be Mk 3 or Mk 4 then. You can apparently ID them from a slight difference in the flywheel although If you are going to fit the switch you'll have to get inside anyway.

 

[Lakesailor]

I've been pondering this, and have been edging towards a 1/4" jack plug socket in the end of the tiller with the LT across it and enabled by a shorted out jack plug on a lanyard. Only at daydream stage so far.

A jack plug will only disconnect if the pulkl is in-line. A proper kill switch is the way forward.

 

[old_salt]

I dont think it has points ignition. Either a Mk3 or Mk4 Wipac I am sure

Mk3

Mk4

It it is anything like the above photo then:-
Is the clear cable with the pan head screw, it looks like it is a low tension ground from the generator coil if it is then if it is disconnected from ground does it kill the spark if so then fit your kill cord switch in to it.

 

[l'escargot]

Bit of string tied to the spark plug cap and attached to your wrist?

 

[JumbleDuck]

A jack plug will only disconnect if the pulkl is in-line. A proper kill switch is the way forward.

Ah. Good point. Back to the drawing board.

 

[Alpha22]

Most audio plugs will 'dissolve' quite quickly if exposed to the elements.

 

[VicS]

Bit of string tied to the spark plug cap and attached to your wrist?

May have some interesting side effects if the string gets wet!

 

[Lakesailor]

Bit of string tied to the spark plug cap and attached to your wrist?

post#8

 

[JumbleDuck]

Carry a waterproof mobile with Dylan Winter's number on speed dial. If you fall in, call him and he will appear to wrestle the Seagull to a stop for you.

 

[VicS]

Carry a waterproof mobile with Dylan Winter's number on speed dial. If you fall in, call him and he will appear to wrestle the Seagull to a stop for you.

Or film the event for his next video.