jay75blue
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Hi can anybody tell me is it possible to fit a safety lanyard to a johnson 15hp outboard model number 15rl74s...also if possible how easy is it to fit and wire...many thanks
fit safety lanyard
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Seajet
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I don't know the engine in question, but would the outboard lifting sling offered by Force 4 be any good for your purposes ?
sailorman
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read as kill cord :encouragement:
Seajet
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Ah, thanks, I was thinking of lanyard as in ' if I drop it into the oggin '...
VicS
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It should be perfectly possible to replace the existing stop button with one which incorporates a kill cord or to add a remote one wired in parallel with the existing one.
The existing one is wired so that it shorts the two sets of points together.
I d expect an agent for Evinrude and Johnson outboards to be able to supply one to fit that engine ( Oakley Marine in Brighton or Willsmarine in Kingsbridge for example) Any outboard dealers worth their space on the planet should be able to help for that matter. It will just be a question of finding one which physically fits and connecting in place of, or in parallel with, the existing stop button.
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rogerthebodger
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Just fit one of there
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-B..._Accessories_Gear&hash=item3f382d2d06&vxp=mtr
Wire it AS Vis says.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-B..._Accessories_Gear&hash=item3f382d2d06&vxp=mtr
Wire it AS Vis says.
William_H
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One of our club O/B powered rescue boats has a very simple arrangement using a toggle switch. This switch is mounted by a large nut to the panel. Under the nut is also mounted a piece of sheet metal that is bent up on both sides and at the bottom for about 10mm. The kill cord attached to the driver has just a loop on the end which goes over the lever of the toggle switch such that when the lever is down (for go) it is trapped with in the walls. So any force pulling the cord will only allow the cord to escape by operating the toggle switch. (killing the ignition)
If the engine has an electrical stop button no problems. However if it does not the new switch will short out the points on old ignition or for electronic ignition (more likely) short out the pick up coil under the flywheel. My old Johnson 6 does not have electrical kill, relying on closing the throttle to stop the engine. The wiring harness is all molded to keep moisture out so it would be a pity to cut the wires to connect a switch. But doable. Don't get confused with lighting coils.Find the coils that go to the ignition unit. Might need a double pole switch for each coil. Sorry not too sure about this part. It might be too hard. good luck olewill
If the engine has an electrical stop button no problems. However if it does not the new switch will short out the points on old ignition or for electronic ignition (more likely) short out the pick up coil under the flywheel. My old Johnson 6 does not have electrical kill, relying on closing the throttle to stop the engine. The wiring harness is all molded to keep moisture out so it would be a pity to cut the wires to connect a switch. But doable. Don't get confused with lighting coils.Find the coils that go to the ignition unit. Might need a double pole switch for each coil. Sorry not too sure about this part. It might be too hard. good luck olewill
VicS
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Ebay.co.uk will find a selection in the £5 - £10 price range.
Hardly worth the bother of improvising something as William suggests.
charles_reed
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William was making the point that not all engines have provision for cutting out the ignition circuit - he therefore offered an alternative for such an engine.
I had an early Johnson, on which the only way of stopping it was to turn off the fuel, of choke it to death.
Before leaping to rubbish others' contribution it would be as well to check one's own understanding.
VicS
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Not rubbishing other peoples posts at all. I have great respect for both Roger Shaw and William Hines and their contibutions to theses forums
Firts sentenec adding to what Roger said by pointig to the UK version of ebay
Second sentenece merely a cooment that at the price of a killswitch and safety lanyard from ebay siurces it was not worth improvising
The engine in question has a stop botton which can almost certainly be repaced with one with a sfety alnyard
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William_H
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Thanks Vic and Charles all sticking up for the old folk. Yesterday I was using a Yamaha o/b powered club support boat. Very nice too (brand new) at idle you could hardly know if it was running or not. (150HP 4 stroke of course)( no olewill is not going to the dark side) Anyway I had quite a fiddle to get that little plastic plate into the kill switch. Another support boat has the toggle switch arrangement as provided by the manufacturer Mariner I think and I would prefer the toggle switch thing as being more clear what you have to do. Usable without the lanyard and you can easily make up a new lanyard. Bit of cord with a bowline in the end.
Then my thread did drift off when I realised that OP's Johnson may not have an electric kill switch. It became just a few thoughts having no experience there. I have to say that if my motor did not have electric kill I would scrub the whole idea and do with out. I am doubtful of the real value of the kill cord. Even though we have had occasions of small dinghies getting away when driver fell out. good luck olewill
Then my thread did drift off when I realised that OP's Johnson may not have an electric kill switch. It became just a few thoughts having no experience there. I have to say that if my motor did not have electric kill I would scrub the whole idea and do with out. I am doubtful of the real value of the kill cord. Even though we have had occasions of small dinghies getting away when driver fell out. good luck olewill
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Seajet
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My Mariner 5 - in a well or stowed in a locker on my boat - has a kill-chord, which for my uses is nothing but a potential entanglement and a right pain !
I really should cut the clip off and glue it in place.
However, I remember being on a campsite on Lake Windermere when a young woman was carried ashore, with horrible injuries to her leg - looked like a shark attack, though unlike Olewill I've never been in places where sharks are a problem - but this poor lady was in big trouble.
Kill chords are just one answer, I've suggested wire baskets over the prop' but mobo fans say the performance penalty is too high; too high compared to what, a girlfriend in a wheelchair for the rest of her life or killed, minced at the throat ?
I really should cut the clip off and glue it in place.
However, I remember being on a campsite on Lake Windermere when a young woman was carried ashore, with horrible injuries to her leg - looked like a shark attack, though unlike Olewill I've never been in places where sharks are a problem - but this poor lady was in big trouble.
Kill chords are just one answer, I've suggested wire baskets over the prop' but mobo fans say the performance penalty is too high; too high compared to what, a girlfriend in a wheelchair for the rest of her life or killed, minced at the throat ?
