Seajet
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OK let's have a pic or diagram of the keel & bulb please...
First yacht advice please
- Thread starter pompeydave
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Best of luck in your search and subsequent enjoyment. Before someone else attempts to be pedantic about terminology, let me step in first and tell you that what you called the "topsides" is called the coachroof. The topsides are the vertical part of the hull from waterline to gunwale.Best of luck in your search and subsequent enjoyment.
Seajet
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How about mud and small stones intruding into the keelcase ?
Flusher is NOT better, I have seen Yachting Monthly Seniors and E-Boats sunk by settling onto stones - even quite small ones - and Seal 22'& 28's rodgered by mud & stones interfering in the keelcase.
A Jaguar 21 pushed over by a gust.
They're all gone after a brief try but the Andersons are still here.
Flusher is NOT better, I have seen Yachting Monthly Seniors and E-Boats sunk by settling onto stones - even quite small ones - and Seal 22'& 28's rodgered by mud & stones interfering in the keelcase.
A Jaguar 21 pushed over by a gust.
They're all gone after a brief try but the Andersons are still here.
TSB240
Well-known member
Deep fin max draft 1.7M gets the small highly hydrodynamic bulb low down over half a metric ton of ballast in the keel makes the boat feel very stiff when you step on the wide side decks!
Think that profile has more in common with modern T foils
Never had a problem with any mud or stones sticking in the keel box slot.
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Seajet
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So it's a tiny bulb which doesn't fair in with the hull to prevent mud or stone intrusion, has little or no foil fence effect and has little righting moment.
Thanks for clearing that up.
Thanks for clearing that up.
pompeydave
Member
Ok, many thanks. All part of the learning process! Any other Hunter Medina opinions out there?
TSB240
Well-known member
The main dislike we had for the Medina was that the keel is lifted out of an open topped keel box. Berthing in smelly muddy waters and the tidal smells that could rise with a weed or slime covered keel open to the cabin put her ladyship right off the boat.
Whilst my crew enjoyed sailing dinghies the major benefit both the Medina and Trapper have is that you can effectively have a decent spray hood as with side decks you still have easy access to the Bow. My wife is very happy to sail in the comfort of the lee of a spray hood without the need to dress up in oilies! The small low profile spray hood has a minimal effect on windage and can easily be lowered for full race mode!
I don't know how tall you are but I was happy to be at the Galley standing up with the added benefit of a spray hood!
I notice you come from a dinghy sailing/racing background which we have in common.
I think you will find that a Medina sails much like the Trapper and has a very responsive feel?
I seem to remember that Angus of this parish used to have a Medina for a few years so you might get real life experience of ownership from him rather than what someone heard in the pub or secondhand!
pompeydave
Member
Ok, many thanks TSB240. I'm not from a dinghy background though. I've been messing about in motor boats for forty odd years, and apart from two or three days sailing in other peoples yachts, I have no experience of sailing at all, so this is a step into the unknown for me.
pompeydave
Member
Hi all, well it only took me ten years from the first post, but at last I have my first yacht! She's a Trapper TS240, hull number 007 so I can feel a tacky Bondesque name coming on . It needs a good cleanup, but I've got until launch day on Saturday 21st March, so should have enough time. Many thanks for all the advice chaps!
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TSB240
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Hi all, well it only took me ten years from the first post, but at last I have my first yacht! She's a Trapper TS240, hull number 007 so I can feel a tacky Bondesque name coming on
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Congratulations and enjoy your new boat as much as we did! If you need any info on or about her class please use the Number I sent you on my PM!
Look after her as they are quite rare!
Worth signing up here for sharing info:
http://www.tallshipsailing.co.uk/trapperyachts/yabb/YaBB.pl
Steve
Steve
pompeydave
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Hi Steve, yes I've signed up to the Trapper Owners Association already, and I have your number for any advice I may need. Can't wait to get her into the water and see how she goes. The chap who sold her to me reckoned she's pretty fast, so fingers crossed . Actually, do you know how many were made in total?
. Actually, do you know how many were made in total?
TSB240
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Hi Steve, yes I've signed up to the Trapper Owners Association already, and I have your number for any advice I may need. Can't wait to get her into the water and see how she goes. The chap who sold her to me reckoned she's pretty fast, so fingers crossed
Around 40 in total.
The biggest problem I ever had was getting on the helm if I had sailing friends or my wife with me. They all enjoyed the experience so much it was hard to get a turn! I think a recent new owner did rather well in the RTIR last year so there is your future challenge!
pompeydave
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Just a little update on this one. I've been out on the boat three times now, and ventured out of Langstone for the first time on Saturday. All went ok, and I'm learning where everything goes and which sheet and halyard does what. Anyone who knows Langstone realises that there are two banks at the entrance, the West Winner, a narrow strip of shallow water off Eastney beach, and the East Winner, off Hayling beach. The East flavoured bank is bigger than the West. I found out how much bigger it's got on Saturday. We were around half a mile offshore heading east and were well clear of the bank- or so I thought. All of a sudden the boat lurches forward as we go aground on said bank! So we're on our side and going over alarmingly as the wind pushes us ever further away from upright. I thought 'better get the keel up sharpish, and the sails down just as quick'. Anyway, before we had a chance to do any of this the wind took us off again and back into deeper water. We kept going west until fully clear of the bank.
I could not believe how much bigger and higher that East Winner has become over the years! Needless to say, we'll be heading for the Fairway post in future before turning east. No damage to the keel as luckily it just pivoted backwards on it's mounting and dropped down again when we gained some depth. It pumped up again correctly when we got back onto the berth also, so a lucky escape all round methinks!
I could not believe how much bigger and higher that East Winner has become over the years! Needless to say, we'll be heading for the Fairway post in future before turning east. No damage to the keel as luckily it just pivoted backwards on it's mounting and dropped down again when we gained some depth. It pumped up again correctly when we got back onto the berth also, so a lucky escape all round methinks!