First time buyer - Sealine/Bayliner

Bigplumbs said:
Many Many Boats incl most if not all outboards have raw water cooled engines. It is very common and is not a worry
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However some are indirect and some are direct raw water cooled.

Far preferable to have indirect and keep the engine block away from salt water!
 
I own a Sea Ray 240 that sits half the year in the water and half on its trailer. We tow it to the South of France once a year.
When I saw the original post on this thread it was predictable that we would have:
It must be diesel / it must be petrol
It must be close cooled / Raw water cooling is OK
It will be a nightmare to tow and launch / It will be a breeze to tow and launch
All Yank boats are carp / Yank boats are great.
In fact you will probably find each one of these subjects covered by their own extensively debated threads.
It is a size of boat where more of these kind of options are in the mix than at other sizes.
It is very subjective and the only way to find whats right for you is to look, try, and see how you feel!
 
As an owner of a 265 for the last 6 years I can honestly say its been a fantastic boat for the price. Nothing falling off or wearing out as long as its cared for. Originally chose the 265 as its the largest boat you can legally trailer in the UK. This was with the view to tow to various cruising grounds but as previously mentioned they are huge when on a trailer. So now we pay for it to be transported to the coast or to the Thames when we feel like a change. We have spent the odd week away quite comfortably on her and running costs haven't been too bad as petrol engines are usually cheaper to maintain. Also a lot quieter and cleaner than a diesel.
We are currently selling her to step up to a larger boat. Moving from the Solent and using her on the Thames in the meantime.
 
Apologies for the slight thread diversion; Russ - who did you use for the transport?

Happy Sealine S24 owner here (18 months) for what it's worth - feel free to shoot any questions across.
 
Had a look at the 2 S23's at Boats co uk today. Nice boats and well laid out. Boats Co uk however need a lesson in how to prepare a boat for people to view. A clean and a spruce up would not go a miss.

Canvas needed to be new on both of them however and Prop buggered on one. What would this cost

Dennis
 
Bigplumbs said:
Had a look at the 2 S23's at Boats co uk today. Nice boats and well laid out. Boats Co uk however need a lesson in how to prepare a boat for people to view. A clean and a spruce up would not go a miss.

Canvas needed to be new on both of them however and Prop buggered on one. What would this cost

Dennis
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View my 265. ��
 
Bigplumbs said:
Had a look at the 2 S23's at Boats co uk today. Nice boats and well laid out. Boats Co uk however need a lesson in how to prepare a boat for people to view. A clean and a spruce up would not go a miss.

Canvas needed to be new on both of them however and Prop buggered on one. What would this cost

Dennis
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Brokerage boats. Not Boats.co.uk responsibility to clean them . Down to the owner to sort.
 
Bigplumbs said:
One way of looking at it but if they want a sale they need to do what it takes to get a sale
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A broker can advise the owner on what works (clean boat), and they could recommend a cleaner/valeter, but ultimately it's not the broker's job to clean the boat.
It would be different if it was a stock boat.
 
Bigplumbs said:
Had a look at the 2 S23's at Boats co uk today.

Canvas needed to be new on both of them however and Prop buggered on one. What would this cost

Dennis
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Duoprops new = about £470 for J4 or J5 from Prior Diesel , or repaired about £120 Steel Developments
Canopy allow £2k but expect change
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Bigplumbs said:
Had a look at the 2 S23's at Boats co uk today. Nice boats and well laid out. Boats Co uk however need a lesson in how to prepare a boat for people to view. A clean and a spruce up would not go a miss.

Canvas needed to be new on both of them however and Prop buggered on one. What would this cost

Dennis
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We paid £1200 for our hoods but that was going back 5 years now so they may well have gone up.

Props can be refurbed for about £100 plus delivery or its about £500 for a new set.

ETA: Check when the boats were last serviced. If they are due a service then thats will be another £1k or so to get someone to do the leg and engine.

Less if you are mechanically minded and can do the work yourself.
 
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All depends on the broker. Our local broker wants to sell boats as much as the owner does as there is money in it for them. Therefore they wash down the boats and ensure they are presentable. Ok so its not a valet and polish but it keeps the boats presentable. This is within their standard service not an add-on cost although the valet and polish is an extra costed item.
 
Thanks for all the help so far. We won't be towing it all the time probably a couple of times a year. I have quite a bit of experience driving heavy plant machinery etc so the towing doesn't scare me too much, I can understand how it can be a bit of a hassle though.

I have had a look at s23s looks like a nice boat but I've also seen a four winns 268 and a ringer fiesta 270. Any opinions or things to look out for on these?

Many thanks!
 
Bigplumbs said:
£1200 for new hoods is not too bad. How long would you expect them to last

Dennis
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Ours are now five years old and still look good as new but we do clean them and keep them reproofed with Fabsil applied a couple of times a year.

They should easily last another five years with the same treatment.

The original Sealine ones were not in great condition when we bought the boat at five years old but we managed to scavange another few years out of them with a few repairs.

Use a reputable canopy maker. There are some rubbish ones around.
 
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