First Pan Pan experience

jamieo

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On Friday I made my first Pan Pan call - not something I'm proud of.

We were around 25nm south of The Needles in the Channel, 4 crew in total but 2 inexperienced (and suffering a little with seasickness). Swell was around 1m, wind had just turned from W to SW and varying F3. We had several hours of tidal window to take the flood through The Needles where we'd have wind with tide and expect a good safe passage.

The wind started to die off and our progress slowed. We had plenty time but in order to be on the safe side and give us the maximum tidal window, I asked to turn on the engine to gain a couple of knots. I also wanted to ensure we got the right angle to approach The Needles and weren't forced too far west to make that a more difficult approach.

The engine clunked, semi turn over and wouldn't start. Couple of tries and no joy. I'm not massively experienced with Diesel engines, happy to diagnose electrical issues and fuel issues but this was out of my knowledge and experience. Keeping a few books onboard, with the boat sailing reasonably well, I spent maybe an hour reading and trying to diagnose the problem. My working assumption was that the engine controls had taken a knock and hadn't checked it was in neutral before starting. Turning the gearbox and prop was too much for the starter and that had further locked up the gearbox.

I was getting a little concerned. We were sailing and in no grave danger but we're in a little risk of making a more difficult angle into The Needles due to the set of the tide and our slowed progress. My bail out plan to Poole seemed a no go, but I figured, despite fighting the current, we'd be able to sail to Swanage and anchor under sail. Still getting into the Solent was my preferred choice with other options to anchor under sail and get assistance.

At this stage I decided I needed some help - not immediately then, but when we got into the Solent and possibly before. I called a Pan Pan and Solent Coastguard were very professional, supportive and it was reassuring. They asked to keep them informed of progress and position every 30 mins.

I continued to try to figure out the problem and tried turning the engine over by hand with a big spanner on the nut of the pulley driving the alternator belt. It was stiff, turned, then stiff. I got it moving a bit more freely. At this point we tried the engine again and managed to slip it out of gear and it started first time. A huge amount of relief!

Cancelled the Pan Pan with Solent Coastguard - they'd helped with some advice and very thankful to have someone to speak to I such circumstances.

Just in case my assumption was incorrect, we kept the engine running but sailed back into the Solent and moored up in Lymington. Glad of the engine to help with offsetting some of the current to align us through The Needles (my second passage through there). Engine has started and run fine since - so believe it was down to getting stuck in gear.

Lessons learned:
- Always make sure in neutral before attempting to start!
- Carry tools, v glad I had a big spanner onboard
- Glad I had books to help advise and diagnose
- Very glad I had planned pretty conservatively so I had plenty time to deal with the problem

I'll admit it, the experience shook me up quite a bit but one of those times you just need to keep a level head.

Appreciate any thoughts and comments.

And thank you Solent Coastguard!!!
 
Sounds like you kept a cool head and dealt with it very well. Probably one of those days where it would be ideal to be in company with another boat, rather than have to do things formally.
 
We heard you as we were on passage Weymouth to Studland. Thought the CG handled it well. IMO it is for the individual to triage their situation and categorise it. If you felt it was a pan pan, that's justification enough. There might have been other options, but so what. As far as I am concerned I pay involuntarily for the CG, and so long as they have sufficient excess resources to deal with the endless mindless radio checks they can damn well keep an eye on me when I am a bit scared, whether through circumstance or inexperience. Same goes for the RNLI - the volume of non-life threatening shouts seems to play to their marketing strategy and keeps them on their toes. I hand over a handy wedge every year and regard it as an insurance premium. I like to think that in more threatening circumstances where others might be at greater risk I would try to be more self sufficient, but on a sunny day if I were worried, why not.
 
I think you should be very proud for making the call. Had you not made the call, and got into trouble, it would have been a panic. Having made the call, with the Coastguard keeping an eye on you, you were reassured, and they were ready.

Pan Pan costs nothing, nobody goes out of their way, but people are aware, and ready to act.
 
I think you should be doubly proud. You made a good call sending the PP and then you had the wherewithal to sort yourself out and be able to cancel it. I can only hope I would be as level headed in the same circumstances.
 
I have been criticise for making a "PanPan" recently. Apparently Maydays have been extended to cover many of the old fashioned PANPAN situations such as Pan Pan Medico. I was mid channel a few years ago and had a situation with a cremate. I called PanPan Medico and was eventually answered by Joburg. Upon returning to the UK, I had a visit from a coastguard landcover with a couple of volunteers who said I should've called in a Mayday, as PanPans were no longer recognised.
 
Why do a pan pan? Why not just call the coastguard and appraise them of your situation?

I don't know enough about sailing, so it's a genuine question. I thought those calls were for emergencies?

A fair question and I think you're possibly right.

Based on my knowledge, a Pan Pan being for an urgent situation that was not yet life/vessel threatening but could become so. At the time I didn't feel we were in a life threatened situation and the vessel was sound. I would have attempted to get us to a safe and secure position under sail alone, but felt there was risk and the situation could worsen.

I'd spent around an hour trying to diagnose and result the situation before making the call. If I were in phone range I would have made a phone call at that stage. Perhaps just speaking to the CG could have been a valid option. It was one of those times where you're stretched - keeping your crew comfortable, working through a problem, but also I'll admit to shitting myself!!

It now seems somewhat silly - engine wouldn't start, stuck in gear, no immediate danger, worked it out, fixed it and all ok. At the time it felt like one of the most stressful situations I've been in.
 
A fair question and I think you're possibly right.

Based on my knowledge, a Pan Pan being for an urgent situation that was not yet life/vessel threatening but could become so. At the time I didn't feel we were in a life threatened situation and the vessel was sound. I would have attempted to get us to a safe and secure position under sail alone, but felt there was risk and the situation could worsen.

I'd spent around an hour trying to diagnose and result the situation before making the call. If I were in phone range I would have made a phone call at that stage. Perhaps just speaking to the CG could have been a valid option. It was one of those times where you're stretched - keeping your crew comfortable, working through a problem, but also I'll admit to shitting myself!!

It now seems somewhat silly - engine wouldn't start, stuck in gear, no immediate danger, worked it out, fixed it and all ok. At the time it felt like one of the most stressful situations I've been in.
Fair enough, thx for answering and not taking it as criticism, and glad it all panned out ok ( pun not intended :) )
 
So will you sue if they do not turn up or just ask for your premium back

Don't be silly. I pay into a general pot that I am confident will help whoever needs it. In consequence, I would have no qualms about seeking their help if my life, or the life of my crew, was in peril, taking into account the circumstances. So on a sunny day in July, if my engine failed off the Needles, I would be OK calling them. If there was a storm developing in the channel and lives were at risk, I would make a judgement between life and boat. What would you do?
 
Well done for posting this and giving us all the benefit of your experience. My first thoughts were the same as Steve's but as skipper you have to make the call and that isn't a criticism.

Anyway, can I ask why you would bail out to Swanage rather than Studland? It sounds like the wind direction would have made that easier, the holding is better and there is a lot more room.
 
PAN-PAN was the right decision, I would have done exactly the same. A number of years ago I too called PAN-PAN when my driveshaft sheared off with my two very young children on board and near shipping lines with no wind. A delayed PAN-PAN can easily turn into a MAYDAY
 
WHAT engine/gearbox is it? We had a Volvo mD22 that needed a blip with the starter to allow it to be removed from in gear after a long time under sail, then it would start right away. had a Hurth gearbox on a Mercedes Om636on a W33 that did the same Pan Pan or regular call still takes samre time on air and same number of people so no sweat. PS agree about Studland v Swanage for sure.
 
Well done for posting this and giving us all the benefit of your experience. My first thoughts were the same as Steve's but as skipper you have to make the call and that isn't a criticism.

Anyway, can I ask why you would bail out to Swanage rather than Studland? It sounds like the wind direction woukld have made that easier, the holding is better and there is a lot more room.

I meant Studland, not Swanage.
 
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