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Decided I had to agree all manner with the yard where my 38ftr is .... so they don't have to keep calling me about moving her to access another or whatever.

While there added to the list of jobs for them to do ....

I have never understaood why boats are made without midships cleats .... an item that makes even a big boat a pleasure to put alongside.

Anisette has the usual L shaped alloy toe rail bolted down to deck.... at bow - she has a cleat each side using same deck bolts of the toe rail, cleat angles slightly in .. so I got guys to photo the bow cleat and asked them to fit same just ahead of midships in same manner.
Luckily these do not need toe-rail cut in any way s the cleat sits slightly higher than top. No need for fairlead either.

No doubt I shall come up with extras to do .. I have to sit with tube feeding to my lower stomach for hours 2x a day ... I'm connected now ... so what better to do than to annoy you lot !! :D
 
I would really miss my mid-deck cleats and glad they were factory fitted with fairleads. We don’t really use them when we park in a marina but they are great for springs to avoid having an over short stern rope to a finger pontoon.
 
My mate who sails with me on the 38 .. has terrible habit of trying to do first line from the bow .... I've asked him everytime to go from midships so I can slide along .. but he goes fwd - meaning I have to then put bow in so he can get on jetty .. stern swings out etc etc etc ....

I'm hoping that having the midships cleats fitted - he'll finally get the message !!
 
Great for fuel berths .... hold her on one line 👍 ... and for alongside berthing generally, once the midship is on, the rest can happen at a leisurely pace. My boat has a reasonably fat arse, so once fendered up with a midship cleat made fast, a little poke at the bow thruster stops the bow drifting in, and pins the boat while the rear admiral and I sort out the rest of the lines.
 
Parking this would be impossible without midships cleats.

Short line on midships cleat. Bow and stern lines led outside everything and bowlined to stanchions adjacent to the midships (bowlines are safer - don’t want rope round prop!) Get short line on, get uptide line on, get downtide line on. Add springs, ease breastropes. Put kettle on.

I have yet to try this, but I think that mooring between piles could be done in a similar way if there were a line between the piles, ideally with a fender secured to it at the mid point, with bow and stern lines belayed to it. My idea would be to grab the line with a boathook and get the fender on deck.

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Refueler said:
Decided I had to agree all manner with the yard where my 38ftr is .... so they don't have to keep calling me about moving her to access another or whatever.

While there added to the list of jobs for them to do ....

I have never understaood why boats are made without midships cleats .... an item that makes even a big boat a pleasure to put alongside.

Anisette has the usual L shaped alloy toe rail bolted down to deck.... at bow - she has a cleat each side using same deck bolts of the toe rail, cleat angles slightly in .. so I got guys to photo the bow cleat and asked them to fit same just ahead of midships in same manner.
Luckily these do not need toe-rail cut in any way s the cleat sits slightly higher than top. No need for fairlead either.

No doubt I shall come up with extras to do .. I have to sit with tube feeding to my lower stomach for hours 2x a day ... I'm connected now ... so what better to do than to annoy you lot !! :D
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And long may it be so! :)
 
We found midship cleats, mounted on the genoa track, an excellent aid to calm alongside mooring. A bit more - much more, of a pain was the way the sheets were attracted to the cleats during tacks. After midship cleats, the next best addition has to be cleat boots.
 
escapism said:
We found midship cleats, mounted on the genoa track, an excellent aid to calm alongside mooring. A bit more - much more, of a pain was the way the sheets were attracted to the cleats during tacks. After midship cleats, the next best addition has to be cleat boots.
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I had forgotten about that issue - probably because it only relates to the days of huge overlapping genoas imitating IOR racers of the time.

With modern 105% jib the cars are well forward of the mid ships cleats.
 
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