Figure 8 loop Vs bowline
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srah1953
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That's what it looks like to me when I loosen it up a bit to examine it. I don't have cord to hand but I'm pretty sure that the "holding" part is essentially a sheet bend - the line goes up thru a bight and around and back under itself. Loosen it be have a close look.
Laminar Flow
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.... and that is when you do a figure 8.
srah1953
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Don't understand. Can you explain, please.
Thanks
srah1953
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This is exactly my point. The binding is a sheet bend. The rest is merely the effect of having one rope rather than joining two.
Kelpie
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I thought it was well known that a bowline and sheet bend are the same knot, just formed for different purposes. The simplicity of a sheet bend doe leave some people a bit skeptical of its efficacy, so I have pointed this out a few times to reassure them.
Having said that, a sheet bend can be much harder to undo than a bowline when subjected to a heavy load. Must be something to do with the direction that the forces are applied.
Having said that, a sheet bend can be much harder to undo than a bowline when subjected to a heavy load. Must be something to do with the direction that the forces are applied.
srah1953
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I hadn't known till I looked at it. Thanks for confirming
C08
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I once had a climbing rope with a bowline unfasten itself and drop off. I was just over some difficult moves with (I thought ) about 140ft out from the belay when my second said-don't fall off-I said why is that and he said your rope has gone. It was a bowline on brand new shiny 3 strand nylon( a long time ago before braided ropes!). I think the type of rope is relevant to the optimum knot to be used apart from the application.
Repeatabilty and reliability are important as well as the knot strength.
Repeatabilty and reliability are important as well as the knot strength.
