Fender etiquette...

[Hazymoonshine]

I was leading boat out of a group locking-out at Port Solent marina this morning...and as we departed my 'new to the boat' crew dropped a fender overboard. With three 30+ft boats rapidly overtaking I held my course before turning to recover, only to see one swipe the fender with his boat hook then drive past without even looking!! At least one other boat was as surprised as me..

I understand the rules of salvage at sea...but even so...i did think he might have chucked it back.

Am I wrong, and was it a fair snatch..?

 

[Judders]

Well he could claim salvage bu really, come on, he should have at least shouted to see if you wanted t back.

Re-enforce my prejudices, what sort of boat was it?

 

[Slow_boat]

No, it wasn't. Technically it's theft.

 

[graham]

Is it Possible that the other boat didnt see which boat dropped it?


Its worth marking your boats name on fenders. If I find an unmarked one I keep it or give it away.If its got a name on I try to return it.i cant ever remember actually buying one. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[Roberto]

you might have tried with "last night I inadvertantly peed over that fender and this morning my baby pooed over it, do you mind if I clean it before giving it back to you ? "

 

[Stevie_T]

Are you sure he actually saw you drop it?
Maybe he assumed you had driven past it and it was his for the taking.
Did you not slow and ask for it back? I'm sure most people would give it back under such circumstances.

 

[Hazymoonshine]

Hannabella,

All three boats saw me drop it - his crew dashed to the foredeck with a boat hook and scooped it up. First boat to overtake, another, actually thanked me for not turning back into him to retrieve it..........then the boat that had scooped it just overtook and studiously avoided me; no wave nothing.

Just a fender, but I was a bit miffed.

V good point about naming fenders - at least I have gained something constructive from this.

Thank you

J

 

[Krusty]

Fender piracy! I trust you noted the boat name and port?
If it is a charter-yacht, a call to the charter company with the date and time would be a service to them (if they care)
If it belongs to a sailing school, the same: and they should care.
If neither, you have several options for action when next you come across him:
Under power, you might want to cross his bows with a long trailing log-line (disposable, of course).
Or perhaps come up on his quarter and deliver a polite note, assuring him that you do know of his theft, delivered into his cockpit with aid of a large weighted plastic bag of cow-dung, or similar, (the only weighty but none-damaging stuff you happened to have handy, of course).
The options are endless, really.

 

[graham]

I disagree completely .This retaliation is out of order.You should in fact help the person by visiting their boat on the pontoon and make sure that their fenders are safely on deck,not getting dirty and squashed between the boat and the pontoon /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[ccscott49]

Obviously an [--word removed--], if you know who it is, treat them like one.

 

[Dave99]

sounds harsh to me, to salvage one mid-solent is one thing but to steel it from under you nose is just rude.

Saying that; was bringing a rib back to Portsmouth last week and we saw some people trying to pick up a fender that was in the water.

I thought - let's go pick it up for them and then drop it off - turned out they were doing man overboard practise. We realised just before we picked it up and aborted!

 

[Lizzie_B]

Under power, you might want to cross his bows with a long trailing log-line (disposable, of course).
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and then you could deliver the note saying here is some rope to tie your new fender on with! /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Seriously though. If you know where to find him - ask for it back. /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

 

[A_7]

Why didn't you just shout?

 

[landaftaf]

no good just shouting - you gotta shout your claim to ownership in a seamanship manner by saying

'hay you [--word removed--], thats my fukin fender you thieving twat'

/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

 

[stevejacobs]

if you ask the lockmaster he or she will tell you the boats in the lock with you and their berth numbers, if they were visiters they would normally know home port and name, salvage only applies to something you can't retreive yourself or have abandoned.

 

[snowleopard]

'Finders keepers...' is a schoolboy myth. In law there is an offence called stealing by finding.

Watch also for the type who rearrange the ropes while rafted so that the better fenders leave with them.

 

[jimmynoboat]

Perhaps you should have asked for it back but, I suppose you were just too gobsmacked that they didn't just hand it over?
Either way Skipper and crew are obviously not nice people and were probably busy on Branscombe beach ealier in the year!
Let them have their sad little victory ... what goes around comes around.

 

[Malish]

Theft , plain and simple, totally out of order - name and shame

 

[Danny Jo]

[ QUOTE ]
Let them have their sad little victory ... what goes around comes around.


[/ QUOTE ] This is a self-fulfilling prophecy, I think. It is, as Moonfire says: [ QUOTE ]
Theft , plain and simple, totally out of order. . .

[/ QUOTE ] And I endorse Moonfire's suggestion to [ QUOTE ]
. . . - name and shame

[/ QUOTE ] but I would name and shame only after giving the culprit an opportunity to respond to your request to give it back. Maybe he has persuaded himself that anything dropped overboard is "lost" and "he who finds it, keeps it". We all have a capacity to delude ourselves, and what keeps us on the straight and narrow are the challenges of people around us. The more we object to this kind of behaviour, the less it will occur.

 

[landaftaf]

and I would say that 'mamsy pamsy lets not cause a scene' bollix is the root cause of all this bullshite breast beating in the first place.

so whats wrong in shouting ' oi thats my [--word removed--] fender '

FFS - are you real or a bunch of .... wipes /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif