Favourite boats I haven't tried

[E39mad]

I think there were only 8 F46's built in the late 1970's and one built in 1996 (which mysteriously caught fire). There were about 140 F37's built.

I'd heard the moulds were in Sri Lanka but not seen any finished boats to date.

 

[Greenheart]

Here's the advert for a new F37... Fisher 37 for sale UK, Fisher boats for sale, Fisher used boat sales, Fisher Sailing Yachts For Sale 2019 Fisher 37 - Apollo Duck

It looks like just a long list of what they'll be happy to charge extra for, if you order one. I wonder what the waiting time would be?

I bet the moulds haven't seen wet resin for twenty years.

 

[Kukri]

There aren't many good photos of the big Nicholson under sail - do you have any?

Well, you did ask...

The only ones of Kukri in my ownership are taken from on board or from too far away; this one was taken when she was owned by the JSASTC, shows the #2 jib and working staysail with the second reef down:



Here is a nice one of Lord Portal; she lives on the Hamble, modelling the #1 jib:


Here is Eager ex Lutine, when she was Lutine; showing the #1 genoa (rugger scrum size gorillas advised):


And as she is now, carbon mast 15ft taller and kept immaculate; she lives in Lymington, and no she isn’t for sale that’s a broker’s photo:


And we had better have the Aussie one, Pacha, one time Sydney Hobart winner; she’s alloy and has shallower bilges:


And we must have Quailo III ex British Soldier ex Broadsword ex Quailo III; she also lives on the Hamble:


and Quailo III again, showing the big spinnaker (spare gorillas and expert foredeck strongly advised):

 

[Bajansailor]

I clicked on the link for the Fisher - she looks very nice, but I must admit that I was side tracked by the Northeast 38 in the side bar with an asking price that is approx 10% of that of the Fisher.
Le Comte Northeast 38 for sale USA, Le Comte Used boat sales, Le Comte Sailing Yachts For Sale Northeast 38 Cruising Yacht - Apollo Duck

 

[Greenheart]

Amazing photos of the Nicholsons! ?

Regarding the F46, I never realised the 'new' 1996 boat had caught fire. Was it a write-off? I remember the YM or PBO article about it.

Pretty sure that was the edition which had the VHF tutorial attached to the cover - an audio cassette. Time flies by. ?

 

[Kukri]

Helmsman’s eye view of Kukri under way. That coffee mug was leading a charmed life.

And for completeness here is Chaser entering Plymouth with my son Charles at the helm of a big boat for the first time:

and a harbour porpoise:

 

[LittleSister]

. . . "Cherubini 48!" They are fabulous.

Not quite the same thing, but puts me in mind of the North Sea 127, designed by David Cannell, who had one himself (and also designed the Samphires, Tamarisks, etc.).



More info & pics at - Northsea 127 archive details - Yachtsnet Ltd. online UK yacht brokers - yacht brokerage and boat sales

 

[Kukri]

Another David Cannell big boat: ‘Faramir’ ex ‘Arethusa’ (1982) owned and run by the Cirdan Trust along with ‘Duet’ the Trust Fund Babe. Yes she is wooden, and replaced a GRP boat which was falling apart and had to be scrapped. I see her often and she is as good as new.

 

[Frogmogman]

"And for completeness here is Chaser......."

I spent an excellent week on HMSTY Chaser in, I guess about 1979, under the excellent tutelage of CPO Dave Butcher.

Sigh.... Happy days.

 

[yoda]

I am lucky to have owned and sailed both my dream ships. I’ve got the second one now.

So by the terms of the OP I cannot comment...

Oh, what the heck - we spent a few days in the Hamble next to a Swan 65 - maintenance somewhere in the Playboy Playmate of the Month league but - phoaarr!

Can confirm that phoaarr is the right description for the way a Swan 65 sails. That said the Nic 55 is not far behind that!

Yoda

 

[Wansworth]

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Helmsman’s eye view of Kukri under way. That coffee mug was leading a charmed life.

And for completeness here is Chaser entering Plymouth with my son Charles at the helm of a big boat for the first time:View attachment 83659

and a harbour porpoise:

How often do the dorado vents get grabbed getting in and out of cockpit?

 

[Kukri]

How often do the dorado vents get grabbed getting in and out of cockpit?

Never. The photos foreshorten what Maurice Griffiths used to call the “loco cab” - the overhang of the coach roof to shelter the forward end of the cockpit. They are well out of reach.

They also send down a Howling Draft!?

 

[Kelpie]

Back down to earth...
I'd love to get a wee spin in a Hunter 19. When I first got in to sailing I was convinced that I was going to end up with one as my first boat (I ended up with a Wayfarer instead!). So it's a case of unfinished business. They look like a lot of fun for very little money.

 

[LittleSister]

I'd love to get a wee spin in a Hunter 19.

If I remember correctly, the Hunter Europa was the same thing, but with the freeboard jacked up a couple of inches to create more room inside.

 

[Kukri]

The Ajax (23ft keelboat) came first, then the Squib (19ft keelboat) then someone (Peter Poland of Hunter Boats I believe) asked Oliver Lee for ‘a Squib with a lid’ to go JOG racing in, and that begat the Hunter 19, and then people asked for a better cabin and that begat the Hunter Europa.

The hull is the same I think but the 19 and the Europa have a mast head rig. All three of them are an absolute joy to sail.

I can confirm that they are a lot of fun for very little money.

 

[JumbleDuck]

The Ajax (23ft keelboat) came first, then the Squib (19ft keelboat) then someone (Peter Poland of Hunter Boats I believe) asked Oliver Lee for ‘a Squib with a lid’ to go JOG racing in, and that begat the Hunter 19, and then people asked for a better cabin and that begat the Hunter Europa.

The hull is the same I think but the 19 and the Europa have a mast head rig. All three of them are an absolute joy to sail.

I can confirm that they are a lot of fun for very little money.

And .... sorry to keep banging on about it ... the 490 was designed as a little sister to the 19/Europa. Very similar design and a lifting keel mechanism identical to the Anderson 22 which Oliver Lee designed the following year. Like his other boats, the 490 is a delight to sail, although the cabin is a tad cramped.

I've heard that the 19 -> Europa change wasn't only driven by comfort. The 19 has a low freeboard and companionway which was thought to make it vulnerable if blown over, so the Europa has both more freeboard and a higher bridgedeck to make it more seaworthy. When David Blagson sailed "Willing Griffin" in the 1972 OSTAR, Oliver Lee made all sorts of modifications (keeping the basic shape and rig) to make her more seaworthy. Which reminds me ... I have a spare copy of his book about it, "Very Willing Griffon".

 

[Greenheart]

I can't remember if you've sat in the cabin of an Achilles 24, Mr Duck.

If you have, I'd be interested to know how much bigger the Hunter's cabin isn't.

That's a serious enquiry. ?

 

[JumbleDuck]

I can't remember if you've sat in the cabin of an Achilles 24, Mr Duck.

If you have, I'd be interested to know how much bigger the Hunter's cabin isn't.

That's a serious enquiry. ?

I've never been on an Achilles 24, but if this is an accurate depiction

then you would get Hunter 490 headroom by removing entirely the wooden layer ...