Fairline Targa 40 - sunk in Poole Harbour

seasick said:
... It does seem odd to me that their appears to be no minimum skill requirement in the UK, just a cheque book. Moreover one does not even need to have insurance.
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Indeed very different between countries. OTOH the requirement for a drivers license certainly doesn't make all car drivers good at it :oops:
 
From the early pics it appeared to be sinking from the rear so doubt it’s a bow thruster tube. My money is on bellow or skin fitting/sea cock failure.

If it was a pipe off the sea cock/strainer or below the waterline you’d like to think they would shut off the sea cock but perhaps easier said than done when it’s coming in and discovered late.
 
volvopaul said:
Unless there are two Harleys the Harley I know is a targa 43
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There must be two Paul..
This one is definitely a 40, with outdrives. I used to walk past it to get to my boat..
As said earlier its also the same boat which hit weymouth bridge last summer & tore off its radome/aerials, damaged the arch etc etc
 
Apologies if this is a silly question but if you go out uninsured and hit another boat are you personally liable of the repairs to the other boat?
 
oldgit said:
How long does it take just to lift the engine hatches peer down at what lurks within , pre departure , any leaks/ mysterious rust/ oil stains or extra water in the bilges, mebbe give the alternator belts a twang.
The downside is that most ? modern boats require a minor dismantling of the boat to do any of this.
Some of us check the innards on the return as well.
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I do both, no choice really as the engine and stern gland seacocks are in the engine bay and I never leave them open when off the boat.

Also have a very loud and scary alarm on the auto bilge pumps :eek:
 
Jamie Dundee said:
I do both, no choice really as the engine and stern gland seacocks are in the engine bay and I never leave them open when off the boat.

Also have a very loud and scary alarm on the auto bilge pumps :eek:
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Same here. The thought of incoming water scares me, I’d like to keep the chances of incoming water as low as possible!! It’s incredible just how quickly it can come in. On cleaning the dripless seals I had a load rush in, it’s scary how much water comes rushing in in such little time.
 
MMcD said:
Apologies if this is a silly question but if you go out uninsured and hit another boat are you personally liable of the repairs to the other boat?
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Yes, if you are at fault. Insurance is something that covers your liability but the liability exists regardless of whether or not you have insurance. Ability to pay in the absence of insurance could be an issue for the injured party though, as would means of recovery, which would inevitably involve legal action.
 
Greg2 said:
Yes, if you are at fault. Insurance is something that covers your liability but the liability exists regardless of whether or not you have insurance. Ability to pay in the absence of insurance could be an issue for the injured party though, as would means of recovery, which would inevitably involve legal action.
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Hence marinas at least require insurance to be in place but clearly many don’t keep their boats in a marina and of course it doesn’t address jetski in particular on trailers. Obviously some take the view not to cover their own vessel but requiring jetski to have third party liability cover would seem a logical step even if not for all craft.
 
Ian MacAulay said:
Yes there are to Harleys, mine the t43 and that one being the t40 that was in poole quay for a while...
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I wonder if they must have both been owned by the same owner once upon a time. I saw a boat for sale recently, same make as outs just an older one, that bore the same name that ours once had. It was quite an unusual one so I’m sure the owner must have upgraded and used the same name on the replacement.

Just as well you’ve clarified your one on here, you wouldn’t want anyone stumbling across the thread when you come to sell!
 
The article mentions that the boat was moored in a nearby marina without permission a few weeks previously, and the police had to be involved to move them on... They really don't seem like responsible boat owners...
 
Nito said:
From the early pics it appeared to be sinking from the rear so doubt it’s a bow thruster tube. My money is on bellow or skin fitting/sea cock failure.

If it was a pipe off the sea cock/strainer or below the waterline you’d like to think they would shut off the sea cock but perhaps easier said than done when it’s coming in and discovered late.
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All the weight is at the stern .
As soon as the water overflowed the front bilge at floor level water would travel aft and flood each section in turn. The boat would sink stern first
Access to toilet seacocks is not easy at best and by the time the owner realises boat is sinking (water over the carpet ? ) the last thing he will be doing is nipping down into the cabin moving tables, pulling up carpets, removing bilge covers and fishing about blindly under water trying to discover which seacock has failed.
Simply time to raise the alarm and get off.
Wonder how many skippers, are aware of their seacocks, where they are, what they do and that you are supposed to execise them once in while.
As for bowthruster failure. Do know of one boat which suffered from a mysterious leak. Seawater was getting into bilges . All sorts of explanations were tried , boat was eventually slipped but nothing found.
Eventually boat was put ashore and bilges filled with water and left overnight .

An after market bow thruster had been fitted and the tube had been poorly bonded to hull. Glassfibre around the joint had failed, when hull flexed, water in bilge, but not in the bilge containing the bowthruster !
The bowthruster had been fitted in the dim and distant past so no comeback. The leak might have been why the previous owner was prompted to sell the boat to the unsuspecting future owner.
Surely not. :)
 
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