Ferretti 881RPH Dreamer
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I very much like the new hard tops, they look good on the sunseekers of the same size so why not on the fairlines...
Fairline Sqd 78 Hard Top
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MapisM
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LOL, good point. Actually I said "the lowerED" version, referring to the HT itself rather than to the position in the comparative pic.
But I see what you mean, of course.
Ir would have been more logical to place the lowered version in the lower position also for another reason: you would expect to see the "before" and "after" in sequence....
Oh, well. Maybe I can't get myself a new job after all, in spite of the very kind support from lambohill....
petem
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Is this perhaps targetted for the US market?
MapisM
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What makes you think that?
I can't speak for FL of course, but nowadays most builders offer hardtops on 80 footers, and indeed most buyers go for it also in the Med - and with good reasons, imho.
Btw, the HT has a raison d'être also in colder climates: it allows to fully enclose the f/b (and even condition/heat it, if you wish!), while the bimini doesn't.
I can't speak for FL of course, but nowadays most builders offer hardtops on 80 footers, and indeed most buyers go for it also in the Med - and with good reasons, imho.
Btw, the HT has a raison d'être also in colder climates: it allows to fully enclose the f/b (and even condition/heat it, if you wish!), while the bimini doesn't.
lambohill
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The 'why not' is that despite the idea in practice being sound, the execution of detail is not.
I had not previously been following this design trend for fly hardtops, but when I was looking tonight on a different matter, I saw the Azimut 80 with retro fit (?) hardtop which looks better as it at least attempts to lower its visual line, slim down its perimeter sections and reduce (slightly) the forward columns. Still not perfect, but better in my eyes.
[And they appear to have used MapisM cut and shut technique...or is it other way..]
I had not previously been following this design trend for fly hardtops, but when I was looking tonight on a different matter, I saw the Azimut 80 with retro fit (?) hardtop which looks better as it at least attempts to lower its visual line, slim down its perimeter sections and reduce (slightly) the forward columns. Still not perfect, but better in my eyes.
[And they appear to have used MapisM cut and shut technique...or is it other way..
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RogerRat
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LOL, good point. Actually I said "the lowerED" version, referring to the HT itself rather than to the position in the comparative pic.
But I see what you mean, of course.
Ir would have been more logical to place the lowered version in the lower position also for another reason: you would expect to see the "before" and "after" in sequence....
Oh, well. Maybe I can't get myself a new job after all, in spite of the very kind support from lambohill....
Thanks for that, I see what you mean now.
Still, both look nice and agree not night and day, it's so subjective. I like the Azimut version above as well.
MapisM
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+1.
And there are many other nice examples, among 80 footers.
Though actually I'd be content also with something smaller like this, just in case Santa is reading...
Which btw proves that a sleek, unobtrusive HT can be built also in the 60-70 feet bracket.
lambohill
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+1.
just in case Santa is reading...
Yep, and if we are talking santa...I am happy with the squadron 78 h/t .Thank you santa! Lovely boat w/o the h/t.
Mmmm...Swmbo has promised me a new husqvarna and I still have a pot of grp resin in left in garage!:encouragement:
Reality is they are all great boats, but sometimes the design evolution goes astray. IMHO the Italians have got this one.
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AndieMac
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+1.
And there are many other nice examples, among 80 footers.
Though actually I'd be content also with something smaller like this, just in case Santa is reading...
Which btw proves that a sleek, unobtrusive HT can be built also in the 60-70 feet bracket.
..."unobtrusive HT"...indeed, but what's going on with the exhaust funnels! a little ostentatious perhaps
Looks like a serious boat though.
MapisM
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LOL, you can say that again, C.
Yes, Wanderbird is a serious boat indeed.
Actually, serious is even a bit of an understatement, for a vessel which is simply the most jaw-dropping one I've ever seen, bar none.
In fact, I must admit that I was cheating with Santa a bit, when I told him that I'd be content ALSO with her.
As much as I would gladly accept both the Sq and the Az as Xmas presents, I would actually be MUCH happier with this boat.
Many builders talk of craftsmanship, but she really puts all those talks in perspective.
This is a short article which might be interesting to read, for a Nordhavn fan like yourself...
http://www.yachtingmagazine.com/article/Ready-for-Anything
...With all due respect for Nordhavn, of course. They do build some great boats, but this thing is way OTT.
With apologies for the o/t, but you touched a soft spot of mine...
PS: I would think that the funnels placement is meant to reduce one of the major cons of dry stacks - i.e. exhaust fumes "following" the boat and stagnating onboard, in some wind conditions.
Yes, Wanderbird is a serious boat indeed.
Actually, serious is even a bit of an understatement, for a vessel which is simply the most jaw-dropping one I've ever seen, bar none.
In fact, I must admit that I was cheating with Santa a bit, when I told him that I'd be content ALSO with her.
As much as I would gladly accept both the Sq and the Az as Xmas presents, I would actually be MUCH happier with this boat.
Many builders talk of craftsmanship, but she really puts all those talks in perspective.
This is a short article which might be interesting to read, for a Nordhavn fan like yourself...
http://www.yachtingmagazine.com/article/Ready-for-Anything
...With all due respect for Nordhavn, of course. They do build some great boats, but this thing is way OTT.
With apologies for the o/t, but you touched a soft spot of mine...
PS: I would think that the funnels placement is meant to reduce one of the major cons of dry stacks - i.e. exhaust fumes "following" the boat and stagnating onboard, in some wind conditions.
Designo
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I agree with all of this, despite I have been doing this myself. In the mid 90:s I added a hard top on a 95´Santa Margeritha and even before that I launched the idea in 1991 on a 47 meter yacht, where it was less conspicuous. The rational I had was that I didn't like to climb the mast to clean all the antennas every week and risk my life on tiny and soapy bars. So I built a fixed roof and later made a design with an opening part for letting the sun in. I actually had an electric moonroof of tinted glass, not canvas.
But in this case, already the squared portholes looks odd and the hard top even more, compared to the now pretty dated overall design. I wonder if it is good or bad when they claim to have made 10.000 customizations on 100 boats..??
MapisM
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Oi, just in case you would be considering to qualify as dated also the Wanderbird overall design, don't.
I wouldn't react politely!
petem
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9990 of those have been on JFM's boats though!
petem
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Pass the popcorn!
AndieMac
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LOL, you can say that again, C.
Yes, Wanderbird is a serious boat indeed.
Actually, serious is even a bit of an understatement, for a vessel which is simply the most jaw-dropping one I've ever seen, bar none.
In fact, I must admit that I was cheating with Santa a bit, when I told him that I'd be content ALSO with her.
As much as I would gladly accept both the Sq and the Az as Xmas presents, I would actually be MUCH happier with this boat.
Many builders talk of craftsmanship, but she really puts all those talks in perspective.
This is a short article which might be interesting to read, for a Nordhavn fan like yourself...
http://www.yachtingmagazine.com/article/Ready-for-Anything
...With all due respect for Nordhavn, of course. They do build some great boats, but this thing is way OTT.
With apologies for the o/t, but you touched a soft spot of mine...
PS: I would think that the funnels placement is meant to reduce one of the major cons of dry stacks - i.e. exhaust fumes "following" the boat and stagnating onboard, in some wind conditions.
Thanks for the link P, impressive read.
Ever thought about a boat charter in the Pacific North-West? We can talk about it in a couple of months
AndieMac
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MapisM
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Sure, it'll be a pleasure. :encouragement:Ever thought about a boat charter in the Pacific North-West? We can talk about it in a couple of months
Actually, we stayed in Vancouver for a couple of weeks last year, while on our way back from Alaska, and we took the opportunity to cross by ferry to Vancouver Island (where that boat was built, btw).
More than enough to appreciate how stunning the natural scenario is, up there. But it's easy to guess that it would be even better by boat....!
MapisM
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LOL, you're reading my mind....