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Re: Fairline makes boat show comeback in Miami

Omegaelite said:
My mrs likes having the sunpad on the back which seems to limit us to "open boats" like the v48 or t48 with ips. I like shafts, so that limits me to v58, v62 or t62 / t64.....

Which annoyingly brings me back to t53....as i dont like flybridge. Have borrowed a few over the years and have never got on with them.
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How about the (now discontinued) V53, or V56 (same boat, longer bathing platform)? Both wet-cockpit sportcruisers, three cabins (forward double, mid twin, mid bunks). D12s or D13s on shafts.
 
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henryf said:
I went onto the Azimut range after I typed my question to you because I wondered if you might suggest them. At the risk of offending people I was not impressed in the context of what we are discussing. Every boat had 2 massive steps going up from the saloon then back down again to the accommodation. Windows were compromised by a shark fin thing sticking up and also a big GRP bar running along the length of the opening.

Similarly it was easy to see the hull shape in all the floors down below. They weren't flat.

I would put them firmly in the Fairline school of space usage. I only looked at the Flybridge boats.

I certainly didn't see anything to rival the Princess floor, ceiling, window achievements. I not talking design flair or layout choice, purely constructional space.

Henry :)
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TBH I think all the builders need to sort of give high respect to Azimut in recent decades.
Every improvement we have seen in the interior layouts and technical innovation has been done by them before others where even dreaming of it.
Hate or love them they changed the way we look at windows, at the owners cabin in smaller boats sub 20 meter boats. Azimut re-invented the segment.

The Azimut 60 is a rework of the 58 (add a larger hi low bathing platform), and the 54 is a 53 with the same change more or less.
58 was presented in 2008, that is an 8 year of production run.

A class leader is someone who rewrites design, among other things. Azimut has been at the forefront of design for quite some time.

I could write a long list of Azimut first on this page, some of them as simple as saying (geez why we never thought of that one before), and other impressive ones which took some builders about five years or more to catch up with them, see full beam midships owners cabin as on the Genoa 2000 presented 55.
 
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PowerYachtBlog said:
Every improvement we have seen in the interior layouts and technical innovation has been done by them before others where even dreaming of it.
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Thats a big statement and I'm not sure its true. Ferretti introduced the aft galley layout and opening window between saloon and cockpit many years ago and the other builders are only just getting around to copying Ferretti now. Ferretti also pioneered internal flybridge stairs on smaller boats, something which sadly seems to be going out of fashion now. I believe I'm right in saying that Sealine were the first to come out with a stairway up to the flybridge rather than a ladder and they certainly introduced the concept of storing the cockpit canopy and table in the flybridge overhang

Yup Azimut are good but not that good
 
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Deleted User said:
Thats a big statement and I'm not sure its true. Ferretti introduced the aft galley layout and opening window between saloon and cockpit many years ago and the other builders are only just getting around to copying Ferretti now. Ferretti also pioneered internal flybridge stairs on smaller boats, something which sadly seems to be going out of fashion now. I believe I'm right in saying that Sealine were the first to come out with a stairway up to the flybridge rather than a ladder and they certainly introduced the concept of storing the cockpit canopy and table in the flybridge overhang

Yup Azimut are good but not that good
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That is also true. They also where first with the extended bathing platform putting a tender on it. First model being the Ferretti 49 Altura.

I think one of the first integrated stair way to the flybridge I have seen was the Conam 48 Chorum, a strange (today I would add ugly) looking wide body cruiser launched in 1987.
An unknown name for you Brits I guess, for boats made in Naples.
 
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petem said:
No beans to spill yet but am hoping to have a look at Rafiki's Az39 is it's only 30 mins down the road from me. Not been on one before but it might confirm what I should be looking for. Unfortunately there aren't any AZ39's quite on my price range so a purchase is not looking likely this year.
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Hey, I thought this was our secret? ?
 
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In terms of spares for the t47, bates have been ok i suppose just another email everyweek saying hoepfully here next week. The new owners of fairline , the old ones or the administrators cant have fired the spares guy as hes critical! I generally need little bits that i not aure how else to source. Lime for instance i currently need the plastic vent covers for the side of tbe fridge grp panel as skmebody has kicked both and broken them! Also want a new style fairline steering wheel and lots of other little bits.[/QUOTE]

I would recommend contacting Heather at the web address below, always been very helpful locating spares for our T47.

http://www.hcsmarineparts.com/
 
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Illusion said:
In terms of spares for the t47, bates have been ok i suppose just another email everyweek saying hoepfully here next week. The new owners of fairline , the old ones or the administrators cant have fired the spares guy as hes critical! I generally need little bits that i not aure how else to source. Lime for instance i currently need the plastic vent covers for the side of tbe fridge grp panel as skmebody has kicked both and broken them! Also want a new style fairline steering wheel and lots of other little bits.
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I would recommend contacting Heather at the web address below, always been very helpful locating spares for our T47.

http://www.hcsmarineparts.com/[/QUOTE]

Huge thanks!

Will contact tomorrow as I have quite a list now :)
 
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Deleted User said:
Thats a big statement and I'm not sure its true. Ferretti introduced the aft galley layout and opening window between saloon and cockpit many years ago and the other builders are only just getting around to copying Ferretti now. Ferretti also pioneered internal flybridge stairs on smaller boats, something which sadly seems to be going out of fashion now. I believe I'm right in saying that Sealine were the first to come out with a stairway up to the flybridge rather than a ladder and they certainly introduced the concept of storing the cockpit canopy and table in the flybridge overhang

Yup Azimut are good but not that good
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Boat builders from the Nordics have been doing internal fly bridge access stairs for many years, nothing new, but a good concept if you are prepared to lose the obvious internal space to them
 
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paul salliss said:
Boat builders from the Nordics have been doing internal fly bridge access stairs for many years, nothing new, but a good concept if you are prepared to lose the obvious internal space to them
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I first saw internal staircaes on Ferretti did with the first 44 Altura in 1985. I am not sure I have seen it sub fifty feet before that on any boat. But as always I can be proven wrong so if you know of some boats please share. Ferretti was very creative in the eighties. They also build that fast 48 HP full of electronics which still looks as a spaceship nowadays compared to other boats.

For example I always though Azimut was the first to go with the glued windows but I learned overtime that actually Carver did it first, although in a not so complete way as the Azimut in the early nineties.
 
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PowerYachtBlog said:
I first saw internal staircaes on Ferretti did with the first 44 Altura in 1985. I am not sure I have seen it sub fifty feet before that on any boat. But as always I can be proven wrong so if you know of some boats please share. Ferretti was very creative in the eighties. They also build that fast 48 HP full of electronics which still looks as a spaceship nowadays compared to other boats.

For example I always though Azimut was the first to go with the glued windows but I learned overtime that actually Carver did it first, although in a not so complete way as the Azimut in the early nineties

Storebro do this on a fly 42 have done for years
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Mmm... I actually like some Scandinavian boats, in more ways than one.
But mentioning Nordic builders in general (and Storebro particularly) into a debate about innovation in boat building, that sounds very much like throwing Wally Yacht in a debate about classic timber boats... :rolleyes:
Then again, if you can mention exactly in which year/model Storebro used fully glued, automotive-style glasses, I'm ready to eat a huge slice of humble pie, if that will be before AZ did.
Actually, I can't remember to have seen one single Storebro with windows like that even in their more recent boats! :)
 
I have steps next to the helm in my 150

Ok, not a JFM staircase but it is very useful and only costs a navigators seat (which I am glad isnt there because they would be trapped by the helm, better the sit at the dinette across the way
 
PowerYachtBlog said:
Hey hope you made some photos, and some spy shots what's coming next.
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As long as they haven't teamed up with a cushion scatterer like Kelly Hopen to put a new face on the existing range.

They need to kill off a few of the range, T 38 isn't competitive price wise and is looking its age, bring in a new T40 to compete with Pricess V39. They need to kill off that stupid shadow model altogether. In the Sqadron range they have 3 models with only 5ft between them so rationalise out one or possibly two of the 48. 50, 53. Perhaps do away with all of the open models as there is little difference between the open and targa top design, I wonder if the 60 has a market place when the 65 seems to have sold so well?
 
petem said:
Well, I've just returned from the FL Factory, goodie bag in hand.

Really impressed with the people I met and what I saw. Will do more of a write up tomorrow when I'm less knackered.
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The goody bags I didn't get paid for !! :disgust:


Don't worry I don't begrudge you one of my bags :)
 
petem said:
Really impressed with the people I met and what I saw. Will do more of a write up tomorrow when I'm less knackered.
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Yeah its a really hard life being the Fairline Owners Club CEO, being chauffered in a Maybach to the factory, bestowing blessings on the workforce with a few royal waves, being wined and dined in Oundle's finest eating emporium, snaffling a goody bag that would make a FIFA delegate blush and then being chauffered back home in the Maybach whilst quaffing Moet in the back seat undoubtedly accompanied by some PR dolly with legs up to her armpits. No wonder you're tired;)
 
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