Koeketiene
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F10 in Ostend or \'Is toerail expensive?\'
F10 in Ostend or 'Is toerail expensive?'
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wingdiver
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Re: F10 in Ostend or \'Is toerail expensive?\'
Is that damage to Guapa, Will?
Is that damage to Guapa, Will?
MoodySabre
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Re: F10 in Ostend or \'Is toerail expensive?\'
Blimey. Presumably caused by tidal surge and not just wind.
Not your year Will.
Blimey. Presumably caused by tidal surge and not just wind.
Not your year Will.
Koeketiene
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Re: F10 in Ostend or \'Is toerail expensive?\'
It's Guapa /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
Deck's not a worry - will be ripping it out in a couple of weeks anyway.
Just the toerail - are these things expensive?
It's Guapa /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
Deck's not a worry - will be ripping it out in a couple of weeks anyway.
Just the toerail - are these things expensive?
wingdiver
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Re: F10 in Ostend or \'Is toerail expensive?\'
Bound to be - it's marine innit! /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
Hope you get things sorted.
Been a bit of a year hasn't it.
Cheers
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Bound to be - it's marine innit! /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
Hope you get things sorted.
Been a bit of a year hasn't it.
Cheers
D
Gwylan
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Re: F10 in Ostend or \'Is toerail expensive?\'
Where were you in Oostende?
Sadly sure to be expensive, if it says 'marine' or 'boat' or 'nautical' Pity caravans do not need toerails, that could bring the price down.
Where were you in Oostende?
Sadly sure to be expensive, if it says 'marine' or 'boat' or 'nautical' Pity caravans do not need toerails, that could bring the price down.
johnalison
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Re: F10 in Ostend or \'Is toerail expensive?\'
It's always sad to see any damage (excluding jet-skis), but I've never liked fairleads much. I doubt if the braided line has much give in it and suspect that proper dock lines might have given a bit of a chance.
It's always sad to see any damage (excluding jet-skis), but I've never liked fairleads much. I doubt if the braided line has much give in it and suspect that proper dock lines might have given a bit of a chance.
Sixpence
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Re: F10 in Ostend or \'Is toerail expensive?\'
Oh crap, that's not a nice site to see /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
Cost of toerail is (not surprisingly) outside my budget, and as far as I can find with searches, no, it aint cheap
Another broke boat on here, sorry Will, but it's going to cost a lot to fix a bit, far as I can tell you have to replace the whole length /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
Oh crap, that's not a nice site to see /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
Cost of toerail is (not surprisingly) outside my budget, and as far as I can find with searches, no, it aint cheap
Another broke boat on here, sorry Will, but it's going to cost a lot to fix a bit, far as I can tell you have to replace the whole length /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
Koeketiene
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Re: F10 in Ostend or \'Is toerail expensive?\'
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Where were you in Oostende?
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Spent two weeks there - happened the WE before last.
NW 9-10 at HW
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Where were you in Oostende?
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Spent two weeks there - happened the WE before last.
NW 9-10 at HW
Koeketiene
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Re: F10 in Ostend or \'Is toerail expensive?\'
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I doubt if the braided line has much give in it and suspect that proper dock lines might have given a bit of a chance.
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Well - you suspect wrong.
The 'proper' lines broke - only prompt HM and nearby maritime police action prevented worse. They used whatever was available.
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I doubt if the braided line has much give in it and suspect that proper dock lines might have given a bit of a chance.
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Well - you suspect wrong.
The 'proper' lines broke - only prompt HM and nearby maritime police action prevented worse. They used whatever was available.
Koeketiene
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Re: F10 in Ostend or \'Is toerail expensive?\'
Think if price OTT I'll ditch toerail
Think if price OTT I'll ditch toerail
Athene V30
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Re: F10 in Ostend or \'Is toerail expensive?\'
Is there an alternative to replacing the toerail. Do you need toerail forward of the aft most stanchion for the pulpit roughly level with your anchor windlass?
If not could you not cut it off both sides and just fit a couple of large fairleads where the damage is.
Is there an alternative to replacing the toerail. Do you need toerail forward of the aft most stanchion for the pulpit roughly level with your anchor windlass?
If not could you not cut it off both sides and just fit a couple of large fairleads where the damage is.
FullCircle
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Re: F10 in Ostend or \'Is toerail expensive?\'
Jeez, sorry for you Will!
I think the main problem will be matching the old section, which will mean changing all of it.
Can I suggest you have a strengthening stainless plate which goes under the (much larger section) fairleads you will replace them with, then carry the plate aft and turned up with a neatly rounded flange, back to the stanchion area, where you can blend the toe rail back in.
That way, you get extra strength, and don't have to replace the toe rail, which might be unmatchable anyway.
Jeez, sorry for you Will!
I think the main problem will be matching the old section, which will mean changing all of it.
Can I suggest you have a strengthening stainless plate which goes under the (much larger section) fairleads you will replace them with, then carry the plate aft and turned up with a neatly rounded flange, back to the stanchion area, where you can blend the toe rail back in.
That way, you get extra strength, and don't have to replace the toe rail, which might be unmatchable anyway.
Jomo
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Re: F10 in Ostend or \'Is toerail expensive?\'
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Spent two weeks there - happened the WE before last.
NW 9-10 at HW
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wondered where Guapa was.... mooring always empty when I've been down recently.
Another hit on a bad year! roll on next, hopefully see some improvement.
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Spent two weeks there - happened the WE before last.
NW 9-10 at HW
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wondered where Guapa was.... mooring always empty when I've been down recently.
Another hit on a bad year! roll on next, hopefully see some improvement.
Gargleblaster
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Re: F10 in Ostend or \'Is toerail expensive?\'
I have wooden toerails and one broke last year during a knockdown as the whole boat flexed. I looked into replacing my complete toerails with aluminium toerails. Can't remember the exact figures but it was over £2,000 just for the extruded section and as I was looking to have some one else do it as I am useless with my hands, I discarded that idea. Had our club amateur chippy replace the broken bit, which was half the toerail on the port side in teak that he found in the boatyard. Still cost me over £300 for his labour and his charges were not exhorbitant.
Long answer to your question, but I think it is costly but you might be able to get away with having a section welded in by a professional aluminium welder. Have you talked to your insurance company?
I have wooden toerails and one broke last year during a knockdown as the whole boat flexed. I looked into replacing my complete toerails with aluminium toerails. Can't remember the exact figures but it was over £2,000 just for the extruded section and as I was looking to have some one else do it as I am useless with my hands, I discarded that idea. Had our club amateur chippy replace the broken bit, which was half the toerail on the port side in teak that he found in the boatyard. Still cost me over £300 for his labour and his charges were not exhorbitant.
Long answer to your question, but I think it is costly but you might be able to get away with having a section welded in by a professional aluminium welder. Have you talked to your insurance company?
FullCircle
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Re: F10 in Ostend or \'Is toerail expensive?\'
Trouble is with welding alloy is that a 20 tonne alloy becomes a 6 tonne alloy post welding, so it is a limited option.
Trouble is with welding alloy is that a 20 tonne alloy becomes a 6 tonne alloy post welding, so it is a limited option.
CPD
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Re: F10 in Ostend or \'Is toerail expensive?\'
No meaningful help from me Will, but hope it gets sorted for not too many sheckles.
If you can remove the whole strip then I would have thought it possible for a careful metalworker to bend her back to shape ?.
No meaningful help from me Will, but hope it gets sorted for not too many sheckles.
If you can remove the whole strip then I would have thought it possible for a careful metalworker to bend her back to shape ?.
Koeketiene
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Re: F10 in Ostend or \'Is toerail expensive?\'
I'm hoping it's fix-able - the whole strip needs to come off anyway.
Boat's on the hard now. Will be speaking to a friend who used to run a shipyard (built Inspiration and Spirit yachts). He's pretty well connected - hoping he knows some-one.
I have informed GJW about the incident and told them I might/might not make a claim. If it's fixable on the cheap (not substantially more than my excess - £500) I won't claim. Will see what the options are.
I'm hoping it's fix-able - the whole strip needs to come off anyway.
Boat's on the hard now. Will be speaking to a friend who used to run a shipyard (built Inspiration and Spirit yachts). He's pretty well connected - hoping he knows some-one.
I have informed GJW about the incident and told them I might/might not make a claim. If it's fixable on the cheap (not substantially more than my excess - £500) I won't claim. Will see what the options are.
bastonjock
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Re: F10 in Ostend or \'Is toerail expensive?\'
sorry to see the damage wil,hope that its not too expensive,my new mast and bits including rigging,cdi furler,shrouds etc comes to 1500.00
this boating lark sure sucks the dosh out of the old bank account
sorry to see the damage wil,hope that its not too expensive,my new mast and bits including rigging,cdi furler,shrouds etc comes to 1500.00
this boating lark sure sucks the dosh out of the old bank account
Koeketiene
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Re: F10 in Ostend or \'Is toerail expensive?\'
And finally - some good news.
It seems the toe rail's made by Goiot - still in business.
Made in 6m sections. Just one complete section needs replacing (from port middle fairlead forward) and one new fairlead.
Starboard side everything can be salvaged.
So, €600 should take care of it.
Amazing what passes for good news these days - only €600.
Could have been worse I suppose.
And finally - some good news.
It seems the toe rail's made by Goiot - still in business.
Made in 6m sections. Just one complete section needs replacing (from port middle fairlead forward) and one new fairlead.
Starboard side everything can be salvaged.
So, €600 should take care of it.
Amazing what passes for good news these days - only €600.
Could have been worse I suppose.
