Eye watering impeller cost - any help?

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Just had the dubious pleasure of parting with £30 to Golden Arrow for an impeller for my Volvo D2-40F. Volvo kit number 22222936 and with the number 3593658 moulded into the rubber. Anyone know the jabsco equivalent number that hopefully I can tap into at lesser cost

Thanks
Stuart
 
Try this guy, 07756 205676, "The Impeller Feller". He was good news to deal with, although I can't remember his name. I've nothing to do with him, but he gave me professional service last year.
 
stuartwineberg said:
Just had the dubious pleasure of parting with £30 to Golden Arrow for an impeller for my Volvo D2-40F. Volvo kit number 22222936 and with the number 3593658 moulded into the rubber. Anyone know the jabsco equivalent number that hopefully I can tap into at lesser cost

Thanks
Stuart
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there is info on internet , giving an alternatives chart. number of vanes might be different but make no difference
 
I may have been unlucky, but I bought *once* a cheap impeller (about 10-15e compared to Jabsco/johnson 40-50e) and in about 50-100 hours the rubber body parted with the central hub, causing an immediate stop in the water flow; by chance I was in the cockpit.
It took a few minutes to discover what happened (first check water filter, seacock, external grid, hose, etc etc).
No cheap impellers for me any more.
 
Volvo of course do not make impellers, they are made by Johnson or by Jabsco. This link could be useful:

https://www.asap-supplies.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=Volvo+Impeller+22222936

which lists three impellers for the Volvo: one cheap one from a lesser known brand, and the genuine Johnson and Jabsco ones.

I have always found ASAP to be very helpful and knowledgeable, and on the reasonable end for prices.
 
Thirty quid is hardly eye watering, and actually seems to be about the right price.

Have you bought it as a spare, or is it needed immediately to replace one that has failed?
 
stuartwineberg said:
Just had the dubious pleasure of parting with £30 to Golden Arrow for an impeller for my Volvo D2-40F. Volvo kit number 22222936 and with the number 3593658 moulded into the rubber. Anyone know the jabsco equivalent number that hopefully I can tap into at lesser cost

Thanks
Stuart
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Keypart offer an "aftermarket" replacement kit for a bit less. https://www.keypart.com/stock/22222936-r
 
Sandy said:
I have a tissue...
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Thanks for the sympathy :D It seemed a lot for a bit of rubber and more than I recalled paying last year. Its just the standard annual replacement routine. Reference some of the other posters - thanks for that. I wouldn't use an unbranded one but hoped to locate the genuine jabsco without the Volvo mark up - your replies have helped and are appreciated
 
stuartwineberg said:
Thanks for the sympathy :D It seemed a lot for a bit of rubber and more than I recalled paying last year. Its just the standard annual replacement routine. Reference some of the other posters - thanks for that. I wouldn't use an unbranded one but hoped to locate the genuine jabsco without the Volvo mark up - your replies have helped and are appreciated
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My pleasure... :D

They are expensive, but hopefully will be a zillion times better than unbranded one that you have no idea of the quality control when it fails at 0314 on a rolly sea with no wind 25 miles off shore in a shipping lane. :)
 
The moulded number is the bare impeller and the other is that of the impeller with any gaskets and instructions in a box
It’s unlikely that the bare impeller is actually sold
Normally Volvo prices are more than manufactures but you pay for the convenience of most dealers having it on the shelf b
 
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I usually change my TAMD40b impellers every two years and around 200-250 hours.

They come out in a wholly serviceable state.

The last ones were run for three years, and were just starting to show signs of tiny cracks at the base of the 'leaves'

I will stick to two year changes, but these are good value, and cost more than £30 each!

Stick to genuine parts. IMHO....
 
Everything marine I bought came with a parts diagram but I can't find one for your furler. Give then a call and ask if they have one, if not you know what to say to them it begins with a T and ends with s.
 
No Regrets said:
I usually change my TAMD40b impellers every two years and around 200-250 hours.

They come out in a wholly serviceable state.

The last ones were run for three years, and were just starting to show signs of tiny cracks at the base of the 'leaves'

I will stick to two year changes, but these are good value, and cost more than £30 each!

Stick to genuine parts. IMHO....
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A very experienced yachtsman-we will call him Tony, for no better reason than that is his name, used the same OE impeller in his 18HP Yanmar two cylinder engine for-IIRC-22 years.

It was only comments from club members about being tight that shamed him into buying and fitting another.

He did not do many engine hours, he is a very good sailor.

When he winterised his boat each year the impeller was removed and dropped into a glass of water, where it stayed untill refitted. It was scrupulously examined for defects each time it was removed, none were ever found.

Not suggesting everyone follows this philosophy, but it worked for Tony.
 
Now I'll make a suggestion that I have never tried myself (just hear-say that it can work), but I am seriously considering to give it a shot with all "consumable" parts: a 3D printer and a one off payment to someone who can design an exact copy in the printer's software... and you'll have a life time supply of spare parts.
According to some 3D printing guys, you can choose from a wide variety of plastics, hardness, etc... (in case you're into fashionable items, you can even choose the color :rolleyes: )
 
Bit of search gets you plenty of normal priced replacements, e.g. this one. That's about the normal price for those things, minus the Volvo markup, so no reason to get suspicious about quality (if it were like £5, then think about why).

Other methods are ordering from reputable third party spares suppliers such as parts4engines and Keypart, which have basically done the homework for you and identified and sourced quality parts. They often come in the box with the manufacturer part number on it, or stamped on the part, so you can then use that next time.

Jabsco also has a Wizard on their website, although it doesn't include your D2-40 engine, perhaps it's not a Jabsco pump.

I do strongly suspect impeller failures are another myth from days long past anyways. I have a bunch ready (box with impeller, gasket and glycerin superglued to a strut in the engine room next to the pump) but am still on our first one, as regular inspection showed not the slightest crack or even blemish on them (added 200 hours onto it this year). Modern synthetic rubbers are quite astonishingly strong, as shown by our saildrive seal (I've cut a slice out of the old one - a real struggle with a sharp knife) or the timing belts. I've removed the heat exchanger caps this winter for the first time ever (boat launched 2001) and expected to find some broken impeller blades, but all I found was calcium deposits :)
 
rotrax said:
A very experienced yachtsman-we will call him Tony, for no better reason than that is his name, used the same OE impeller in his 18HP Yanmar two cylinder engine for-IIRC-22 years.

It was only comments from club members about being tight that shamed him into buying and fitting another.

He did not do many engine hours, he is a very good sailor.

When he winterised his boat each year the impeller was removed and dropped into a glass of water, where it stayed untill refitted. It was scrupulously examined for defects each time it was removed, none were ever found.

Not suggesting everyone follows this philosophy, but it worked for Tony.
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Can't beat that - only on my tenth year.
 
Our D1-30 had a Johnson raw water pump, is it likely that the D2-40 uses the same?
Having said that I always bought the impellers from Keypart with the other annual purchases, I never really regarded them as expensive for what they do. I had a problem with an after market one I bought once that did not fit the spindle so tended to buy the ones in the blue boxes with Volvo on them. Having had my engine pack in once when berthing in Mallaig in a Northerly blow I like to change impellers after not more than 200 hours, spendthrift I know but gelcoat repairs are not that easy and crazy money if the boatyard does them.
 
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