vas
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by no means bad! Dusk is a beautiful time for photography.
if you go on like that i'll give in and buy the thing!
V.
if you go on like that i'll give in and buy the thing!
V.
Excellent New Drone for Boating - DJI Mini 2
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Bigplumbs
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My DJI Mini 1 is not good in the wind. My Mavic Air 1 and Mavic Air 2 and Spark are very good in the wind. So I wanted to test the DJI Mini 2 in this regard.
Here it is flying today.... Judge for yourself. I think it did very well for a 240g drone
Here it is flying today.... Judge for yourself. I think it did very well for a 240g drone
Hurricane
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Nearly lost mine in strong wind.
It started to drift away even though I had the sticks full over.
I was worried that it would go out of range.
Thankfully, I decided to reduce the altitude so that it could overcome the wind.
Had it gone out of range, the first thing it would have done (using its RTH process) would be to climb to higher altitude where the wind was even stronger.
I think I would have lost it then.
In fact it would have been interesting to see what it would have done trying to get back to its take off location and not making any progress!!
Bigplumbs
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Baggywrinkle
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Hurricane
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I only have the old Mini and a Mavic Pro - oh yes and an old Phantom.
vas
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OK, bookmarked a few on ebay, will monitor price and buy after xmas (hoping I'll be able to go out then...)
wonder how much better bigger size one is tbh and if it's worth the extra money!
wonder how much better bigger size one is tbh and if it's worth the extra money!
Bigplumbs
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The best one bar none is the Mavic Air 2 Get the Fly more combo and use an IOS Device as you viewing screen
Alicatt
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I have taken my test and registered myself and my Phantom 4pro - in the UK.
In Belgium the rules are different, and, even though they are adopting the new rules they will also be tempered with the current restrictions, in that without test you can only fly within your own property and to a height of 10m, you are also allowed to fly your drone at a licenced model aircraft area up to a height of 45m. To fly your UAV outside of those restrictions then you have to undertake training and pass a written and practical test.
I started to build and fly RC aircraft a long time ago, and while awaiting the Phantom 4pro I got a Syma "toy" drone, it is the same size and shape as the Phantom but without all the smarts to practice with, biggest limitation with it is the 10 minutes flight time, it weighs in at 700g and for flight purposes in Belgium it is fine to fly it within/over your own private land without needing the licence that the Phantom requires just now.
Now if you want to fly a R/C aircraft that is not a drone then you can fly one that weighs up to 150kg without licence or medical exam
Current Drone regs in Belgium until 1/1/2021.
In Belgium the rules are different, and, even though they are adopting the new rules they will also be tempered with the current restrictions, in that without test you can only fly within your own property and to a height of 10m, you are also allowed to fly your drone at a licenced model aircraft area up to a height of 45m. To fly your UAV outside of those restrictions then you have to undertake training and pass a written and practical test.
I started to build and fly RC aircraft a long time ago, and while awaiting the Phantom 4pro I got a Syma "toy" drone, it is the same size and shape as the Phantom but without all the smarts to practice with, biggest limitation with it is the 10 minutes flight time, it weighs in at 700g and for flight purposes in Belgium it is fine to fly it within/over your own private land without needing the licence that the Phantom requires just now.
Now if you want to fly a R/C aircraft that is not a drone then you can fly one that weighs up to 150kg without licence or medical exam
Current Drone regs in Belgium until 1/1/2021.
Bigplumbs
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I have taken my test and registered myself and my Phantom 4pro - in the UK.
In Belgium the rules are different, and, even though they are adopting the new rules they will also be tempered with the current restrictions, in that without test you can only fly within your own property and to a height of 10m, you are also allowed to fly your drone at a licenced model aircraft area up to a height of 45m. To fly your UAV outside of those restrictions then you have to undertake training and pass a written and practical test.
I started to build and fly RC aircraft a long time ago, and while awaiting the Phantom 4pro I got a Syma "toy" drone, it is the same size and shape as the Phantom but without all the smarts to practice with, biggest limitation with it is the 10 minutes flight time, it weighs in at 700g and for flight purposes in Belgium it is fine to fly it within/over your own private land without needing the licence that the Phantom requires just now.
Now if you want to fly a R/C aircraft that is not a drone then you can fly one that weighs up to 150kg without licence or medical exam
Current Drone regs in Belgium until 1/1/2021.
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With rules like that there seems to be little point in owning one in Belgium...... Mind you prno one will police them hopefully as long as you are sensible
Alicatt
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That's how it feels. Just now I hop across the border to Holland, 5 minute drive, and fly there, a lot less restrictive and you don't have to take a €1800 flight training course.
My house is situated right at the point where the F-16s from the local airbase turn on to finals, so if I want to fly in my garden I have to take that into account, my nephew is a BAF pilot so there is no way I would consider endangering his or anyone else's lives.
For the DJI Phantom I am on the border of whether I'm allowed to fly in the garden or not some times it works sometimes not, but in any case I have to apply for a lifting of restrictions and unlock the drone to allow it to fly here, those unlocks are time limited too.
CLB
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Does the 249g weight of the Mini 2 mean you don't need to complete any formalities at all in the UK?
Baggywrinkle
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As Mr. Plumbs says, the Mavic Air 2 is the better drone - but it is in the A2 sub-category.
For A2 in addition to pilot registration, drone label and (country specific 3rd party insurance), which we will all need as of Jan next year, you will also need the online training and test, plus the remote ID function turned on when flying. The other difference between A1 (Mini 2) and A2 (Air 2) are the rules regarding uninvolved people.
Mr Plumbs will now flip his lid, but here it is anyway ...
MTOM <250g (Mini, Mini 2)
MTOM <900g (Air 2)
If those differences will not impact your drone flying experience, save up a bit more and get the Mavic Air 2.
I went for the Mini 2 because I use my drone a lot over built-up areas where it is impossible to keep the required distance from uninvolved people. My experience flying the original Mini is that most "uninvolved people" are friendly and very interested in the drone and chat or ask questions, I have a tablet with me to show the galleries of the kind of photos I am capturing.
Unfortunately, on probably 1 flight in 10 in populated areas I encounter an a$$hole. They have done everything from try to tell me the rules, complain about the noise, claim invasion of privacy, or threatened to get the police involved - basically they want the drone out of the sky and packed away. It really helps if you are squeaky clean in these situations and can calmly and knowledgeably talk to these people, show them what you are doing and in most cases they go away without involving the authorities. With an Air 2 I would be violating the distance from uninvolved people rules regularly, and it only takes one jobsworth policeman to make my life difficult. I have had an occasion where I was confronted while landing the drone, and after a brief discussion where it became obvious he wasn't going to give up, I told the guy I was finished anyway for the day, landed, and packed up. This got a round of applause from the blokes mates, but fortunately no police involvement.
To minimise my risk, I usually launch the drone straight up to around 30-50m, and choose a launch site as far away from people as possible, it is practically inaudible at these heights and nobody notices if you are discreet.
vas
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thanks Baggy, probably best to stick to the Mini 2 me thinks. And do the small online course just in case (I'll probably learn something out of it).
Having said that I'll most likely fly it off the boat in achorages, but again I rather have 500euro at stake compared to 900
V.
Having said that I'll most likely fly it off the boat in achorages, but again I rather have 500euro at stake compared to 900
V.
Bigplumbs
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All good advice......... Not too concerned about Pasting the rules. I just feel sometimes it is better to not know and get on with what you are doing responsibly.
I agree that most people are interested rather than annoyed. As for the Privacy thing well you cant see very much detail at all over 50 m high to be honest....... It is just those that love to be Grumpy........ Just fly it away from people and also they may see the drone but they will most likely not know where the pilot is
Baggywrinkle
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Thank-you. The privacy thing is a problem because people imagine that drones can zoom in on every detail, showing them what it can actually see satisfies most people with privacy concerns .... but as for being able to remain anonymous while flying a drone ... those days will be gone shortly.
Remote ID is the Trojan horse that will effectively introduce an AIS equivalent for drones. The sub 250g drones are currently exempt from Remote ID, and DJI are planning to release a Drone-To-Phone App ... this is what it does.
Hurricane
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You probably all know that I love my electronics.
The boat has its own built in PC which feeds to all the monitors/Nav display and TVs on the boat.
You may also know that my Mavic Pro ditched in Ibiza about 3 years ago completely killing it.
We recovered it but what I find amazing is that a few days later I looked at my PC system's track that records everywhere we go,.
And there was a MOB (Man Overboard) waypoint placed right where the drone went down.
Is that scary or what!!!
I'm sure that there is no electronic interface between the boat and the drone so it must have been human intervention but I have never had an MOB in the track before.
The boat has its own built in PC which feeds to all the monitors/Nav display and TVs on the boat.
You may also know that my Mavic Pro ditched in Ibiza about 3 years ago completely killing it.
We recovered it but what I find amazing is that a few days later I looked at my PC system's track that records everywhere we go,.
And there was a MOB (Man Overboard) waypoint placed right where the drone went down.
Is that scary or what!!!
I'm sure that there is no electronic interface between the boat and the drone so it must have been human intervention but I have never had an MOB in the track before.
Bigplumbs
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You dont seem to get it I am afraid. Just continue doing what you do sensibly and ignor all that Twoddle............ There are no Drone Police
Baggywrinkle
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And what other laws are there no police for? ..... while there may not be a "drone division", the problems start when some tw@t gets the police involved and lodges a complaint ... you really need to know what the rules are to ensure you're complying with them - if you just ignore it all and do what you think is sensible it's not enough, ignorance of the law is no defence - it will put you in a position where you are relying on the good will of the police to avoid fines or prosecution - pretty daft in IMO.
Bigplumbs
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I started this thread to cheer myself and perhaps others up and to alert people to something they might like to consider. If you want to discus all the drone laws then might I suggest you start your own thread. Constantly quoting the laws or worse perceived laws simply drags people down and depresses them. Not particularly helpful at any time and in particular at the moment.
For your information I am aware of all you are saying....... I have been doing this a very long time and also don't need lessons from your good self on these matters
As I said if you are interested in all the negative stuff I would be grateful if you would start a new thread and you can discuss that with others of a similar mind