westernman
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Ah the "Dieselshtern".
[ Search in this article to understand why: https://www.nytimes.com/1976/07/02/...illed-on-land-and-sea-as-tall-ships-sail.html ]
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[ Search in this article to understand why: https://www.nytimes.com/1976/07/02/...illed-on-land-and-sea-as-tall-ships-sail.html ]
Refueler
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It was quite small ... about the 20ft mark ... I used to sleep on the cabin floor between the two bunks.
There she is ... Yarmouth Isle of Wight before they put in pontoons etc.
Wansworth
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The two and a half tonner,apparently Dennis Culingford Hillyards nephew who took over the are had to build one to show he knew about boatbuildingIt was quite small ... about the 20ft mark ... I used to sleep on the cabin floor between the two bunks.
There she is ... Yarmouth Isle of Wight before they put in pontoons etc.
Ardenfour
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Any excuse to post a picture
. I did sail last year with the mizzen mast off for repairs, and didn't notice a huge difference. I think the main advantage is on a broad rerach.Wansworth
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class of yacht,on tip of tougne?View attachment 153426
Any excuse to post a picture
Bajansailor
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Wansworth
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Thanks
coopec
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Well I have to agree.Well for aesthetics a William Fife 3 gaff rigger schooner would trump that any day of the week
But for practical yacht cruising, a Bermudan sloop with roller furling jib is perfect for most people.
coopec
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Wansworth
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Thanks,should have done something when Iwas youngerLike this?
coopec
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William_H
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I had a friend at our club who had a concrete ketch (called Ketchup) he sailed it around the world over several years. Somewhere along the trip he discarded the mizzen mast and made it a sloop. Apparently to advantage. I think the concern of sail balance centre of effort (versus keel centre of lateral resistance ) is over rated. Yes in light winds I have managed to steer without rudder by sail balance and boat heel. (in a test) but in any real wind heeling causes weather helm and is far more significant. So I would say to OP go for the boat and leave as a sloop. (just an opinion from one with no experience of ketch) ol'will
coopec
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Can someone help me!
I'm trying to think of the name of a traditional (classic) production yacht (no longer in production) which is similar to the Hans Christian ocean going yacht (ketch?)
They don’t build boats like that anymore
I'm trying to think of the name of a traditional (classic) production yacht (no longer in production) which is similar to the Hans Christian ocean going yacht (ketch?)
They don’t build boats like that anymore
LadyInBed
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Yes, ketches can sail well without a mizzen.
2010 off Dartmouth.
2010 off Dartmouth.
Wansworth
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Cuttyhunk,made in Falmouth of grp and closed cell Airex foamCan someone help me!
I'm trying to think of the name of a traditional (classic) production yacht (no longer in production) which is similar to the Hans Christian ocean going yacht (ketch?)
They don’t build boats like that anymore
coopec
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Thanks but it is not the one I was thinking of. (beautiful though)
It was a bit more like this. (which is a Valiant)
Refueler
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After Latvian ex Prime Minister and pals had circumnavigated - the boat 2001 .. 62ft Schooner - returned to Ventspils and was offered to me ... unfortunately at the time I was re-modelling businesses and could not enter into such deal.
pal of mine took her on and made many 'rental' trips with her in Baltic.
I wanted to use her for Baltic / Greek Islands work ... as she had excellent on board for Business Conference work etc.
Accom's was 10 (incl 3 crew) ... main stern cabin was like Nelson's ... amazing. She had two baths .. yes baths !!
Dinghy in davits was accessed via a hatch in that stern party area.
Ferro built in Switzerland - then trucked to St Nazaire for launch. Castro design.
pal of mine took her on and made many 'rental' trips with her in Baltic.
I wanted to use her for Baltic / Greek Islands work ... as she had excellent on board for Business Conference work etc.
Accom's was 10 (incl 3 crew) ... main stern cabin was like Nelson's ... amazing. She had two baths .. yes baths !!
Dinghy in davits was accessed via a hatch in that stern party area.
Ferro built in Switzerland - then trucked to St Nazaire for launch. Castro design.
Ardenfour
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Barbary Class 32
Ardenfour
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Yip, that's the one
Bajansailor
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Robert Perry designed the Valiants, and many other similar types of yachts for different builders - you could try asking your question on his Facebook page perhaps? There is a very enthusiastic following on there, and I sure you will get some good suggestions.
Robert Perry, Yacht designer, Fan Club | Facebook
