EPIRB or flares?

The first is a quote from my message, the second is his. I assume.

It does not appear as a quote from yours or any other previous post and is not attributed to you. It's not even in inverted commas but I now note you said that earlier so I guess that that's what it is.
 
>My view is always carry flares for the reasons above, they are not something to be removed" seem to say the opposite of each other.

Err, if you carry them then you have them on board if you remove them you don't have then on board any longer. Where is the contradiction in that?
 
It does not appear as a quote from yours or any other previous post and is not attributed to you. It's not even in inverted commas but I now note you said that earlier so I guess that that's what it is.

KellysEye never does actual quotes. I don't know why not. Yes, it's confusing and makes his posts hard to read.

Pete
 
>KellysEye never does actual quotes. I don't know why not. Yes, it's confusing and makes his posts hard to read.

> is the indication of a qoute it was the first symbol used when the Intenet started, I was one of the first 5% to use it and I have stuck with it ever since. >> is a second person's quote. When the Internet was first used by the public, it was military, there was no browser and everything was written in Unix, what we would now call a Website address was 50 Unix characters. One example was someone wrote how to aviod queues in Disneyland. There was a surprising amount of information available but nowhere near what there is now. Forums and email were available as was FTP. Netscape was the first browser launched on April 4 1995 and shortly after that I decided to set up the UK's first Web design company.
 
>KellysEye never does actual quotes. I don't know why not. Yes, it's confusing and makes his posts hard to read.

> is the indication of a qoute it was the first symbol used when the Intenet started, I was one of the first 5% to use it and I have stuck with it ever since. >> is a second person's quote. When the Internet was first used by the public, it was military, there was no browser and everything was written in Unix, what we would now call a Website address was 50 Unix characters. One example was someone wrote how to aviod queues in Disneyland. There was a surprising amount of information available but nowhere near what there is now. Forums and email were available as was FTP. Netscape was the first browser launched on April 4 1995 and shortly after that I decided to set up the UK's first Web design company.

But would convention not have been for the reply to have line breaks applied?

Hence:
> is the indication of a qoute it was the first symbol used when the Intenet started,
> I was one of the first 5% to use it and I have stuck with it ever since.
>
>> is a second person's quote. When the Internet was first used by the public, it was
>> military, there was no browser and everything was written in Unix, what we would
>> now call a Website address was 50 Unix characters. One example was

That becomes more readable...
However, why not use the ['quote']['/quote'] functions - it is handled far better by the CSS... ...the tinternet has evolved for a reason
 
A few years ago with the wind about F6 I spotted a yacht with a MOB attached by his lifeline. I was ashore about 3/4 mile from the boat. It was mid week early September at the entrance to the East Swale in Kent. There was no other boats around and very few people. I noticed the yacht stationary with the one member of crew keep going to the stern and looking over. I then realised someone was in the water and alerted the Coastguard by mobile phone. Whilst talking to the CG, I heard a garbled distress call from the yacht on a VHF that I use to listen to the weather forecast. The location is some distance from the nearest CG radio mast and they did not pick up the call, but heard it over my telephone. Whitstable lifeboat had already been paged on my call and the casualty was recovered in a poor state, but survived.

If I hadn't been there at the time, I doubt that anybody else would have noticed the incident. No flares were fired, but I doubt if they would have been noticed due to the remoteness of the location. With the CG not receiving the VHF call, I'm not sure whether they would have picked up a DSC transmission if there had been one, but an activated PLB or EPIRB would have raised the alarm, albeit, possibly the delay may have been a bit late for the MOB but his wife who also ended up being rescued by the RNLI would have been saved.

I have a DSC radio, flares and just bought a PLB. With the modern electronics, I don't think the flares have the same value as I'm not sure that the average non-nautical member of the general public would recognise the significance of a flare, but they could be a useful assistance in guiding a lifeboat or helicopter if they are looking for you.
 
>KellysEye never does actual quotes. I don't know why not. Yes, it's confusing and makes his posts hard to read.

> is the indication of a qoute it was the first symbol used when the Intenet started, I was one of the first 5% to use it and I have stuck with it ever since. >> is a second person's quote. When the Internet was first used by the public, it was military, there was no browser and everything was written in Unix, what we would now call a Website address was 50 Unix characters. One example was someone wrote how to aviod queues in Disneyland. There was a surprising amount of information available but nowhere near what there is now. Forums and email were available as was FTP. Netscape was the first browser launched on April 4 1995 and shortly after that I decided to set up the UK's first Web design company.

Why do you have to use this method when it is so much easier to use the "Reply with Quote" function at the bottom of each post. You can then easily edit the post you are replying to so that it is crystal clear.

Exactly as this post is done.

Things have moved on in the last 25 years, although based on some of the out of date and irrelevant stuff you post, guess you may still be stuck that far in the past.
 
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A few years ago with the wind about F6 I spotted a yacht with a MOB attached by his lifeline. I was ashore about 3/4 mile from the boat. It was mid week early September at the entrance to the East Swale in Kent. There was no other boats around and very few people. I noticed the yacht stationary with the one member of crew keep going to the stern and looking over. I then realised someone was in the water and alerted the Coastguard by mobile phone. Whilst talking to the CG, I heard a garbled distress call from the yacht on a VHF that I use to listen to the weather forecast. The location is some distance from the nearest CG radio mast and they did not pick up the call, but heard it over my telephone. Whitstable lifeboat had already been paged on my call and the casualty was recovered in a poor state, but survived.

If I hadn't been there at the time, I doubt that anybody else would have noticed the incident. No flares were fired, but I doubt if they would have been noticed due to the remoteness of the location. With the CG not receiving the VHF call, I'm not sure whether they would have picked up a DSC transmission if there had been one, but an activated PLB or EPIRB would have raised the alarm, albeit, possibly the delay may have been a bit late for the MOB but his wife who also ended up being rescued by the RNLI would have been saved.

I have a DSC radio, flares and just bought a PLB. With the modern electronics, I don't think the flares have the same value as I'm not sure that the average non-nautical member of the general public would recognise the significance of a flare, but they could be a useful assistance in guiding a lifeboat or helicopter if they are looking for you.
If a flare had been fired then you would have probably seen it since you clearly had your eyes open and were in the vicinity. As for your last comments, I think the majority of people living near the coast knows what a flare is.
 
Why do you have to use this method when it is so much easier to use the "Reply with Quote" function at the bottom of each post. You can then easily edit the post you are replying to so that it is crystal clear.

Exactly as this post is done.

Things have moved on in the last 25 years, although based on some of the out of date and irrelevant stuff you post, guess you may still be stuck that far in the past.

Sorry, but I had to dive in on this one, hopefully to smooth the water: The reply with quote function in this forum does not handle nested quotes properly, at least not if one is using Safari. See my attempt earlier in this thread. Other forums can, and I suspect that nesting the quote manually may work, but who has time for that?

Ooh it does work if done manually :0)
 
If a flare had been fired then you would have probably seen it since you clearly had your eyes open and were in the vicinity. As for your last comments, I think the majority of people living near the coast knows what a flare is.

Yes I probably would have seen it and acted on it. What I was getting at, although close to the coast this is a very remote area and the majority of properties are holiday homes, so being out of the holiday season very few people were about. My family have owned a holiday home in this area for many years and in my experience, very few land lubbers pay any attention to what is actually going on out on the water. Maybe a flare close to the coast may have kicked someone into doing something, but I doubt it.
More recently from the same place I spotted a red parachute flare one evening and immediately reported it. Nothing was found and in hindsight it was probably fired further away and over land. The stretch of water although not a river is effectively an estuary. No other reports were made to the Coastguard.
 
>But would convention not have been for the reply to have line breaks applied?

No line breaks were not appplied it is visually unappealing. At the time forums were very basic and had no 'Reply with Quote' which is to me a waste of space which is why I stuck with > which is simple and should be obvious, as I assume everybody remembers their posts and > highlights it.
 
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