MikeJ2
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Just fitted an Eberspacher D4 cos others in the marina have D4's and love em. Can speak highly enough of it at the moment.
eberspacher heating
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AuntyRinum
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Eberspachers are excellent. I've had one for two years and it's wonderful. If you're going to buy one wait for the Boat Show and take advantage of the large discount they offer there.
MikeJ2
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Just bought mine and insisted on the boat show price or I'll go elsewhere - they obliged. Got my D4 kit for £1250 inc VAT.
duncan
Active member
Re: balance
thanks to everyone for the bringing some balance to this thread - I feel a lot better now!
Rick - I am sure your central heating system will be everything you are obviously expectign from it! Suspect it might be a little impractical on Phaeton!
thanks to everyone for the bringing some balance to this thread - I feel a lot better now!
Rick - I am sure your central heating system will be everything you are obviously expectign from it! Suspect it might be a little impractical on Phaeton!
AngusMcDoon
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The counter is reset to 0 on a successful start.
Robin2
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I have a D5LC hot air heater on a live-aboard boat. The blower motor consumed its brushes after about 7,000 hours (3 years). However you can't buy replacement brushes (which would be expensive at €10.00) because Eberspacher designed the hing backwards with the bruses at the end of the motor that you can't access. I had to buy a whole new blower unit at €600.00. This works out at over €200 per year in spare parts (when you also allow for a new glow plug etc) compared to an annual diesel fuel of €450.00. Eberspacher's ony response (given very politely) was that it was out of warranty, so it was my problem.
Apart from that I am very pleased with it. However if the blower motor fails again within the next 10 years I will look very closely at alternative makes.
Apart from that I am very pleased with it. However if the blower motor fails again within the next 10 years I will look very closely at alternative makes.
hlb
RIP
My second repair was £600, discovered it was bodged repair. New Casting £600. Plus court costs of first repair, which I lost for spurious reasons. Then new control box. This that and the other. Mostly it just clinkers it'self up and smokes like hell, till it gives up the gost. It's bril when it's working, bloody expencive and very cold when it's not!!
clivew05
New member
I am about to buy a boat with eberspacher heating I do not know the model - it has a black squar control unit with a temp dial and a switch this has a orange end when on black when off - there appears to be an orange lamp which would indicate that it was on - however the lamp never lights and when the switch is switched to the on position nothing happens - I know nothing about this is there something else that has to be done before switching on - like having the ignition on? the boat is plugged into shore power? is there a valve to turn on for diesel? I am not sure about the state of hte batteries - but I am assured that they have been charged, but in any case would the shore power not be enough to boost them, if not enough power to start would the little lamp not come on but be dim? any assistance would be welcome. Thanks /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
ShipsWoofy
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Re: Eberspächer heating
I wrote to Eberspächer at the beginning of the week asking the top 5 questions that keep appearing on the forum but as yet am still waiting for a reply from them, if they ever do I will post it on PBO which is the most popular Eberspächer help line. I even invited an Eberspächer man to enter the forums, but I would not hold much help, maybe Keith would have more luck as a representative of YBW, it is about time we had a Rod Carr type repeat.
It sounds like your fuse has popped, there should be an in-line fuse on the main supply to the heater, about 35A I think. If you have a voltmeter measure the supply on the main cables near to the heater, I am guessing yours will be dead.
It could also be that you have a switch somewhere in line to isolate the heater, mine is straight off the port main battery switch to keep the cable runs as short as possible. It might be prudent if you are having problems to rewire your setup with much heavier cable (light engine starter like found on old mini vans is ideal). I found that it would have been mad for me to even attempt to run through the main panel, this also stops accidental switch offs which might bypass the cooling cycle and damage the unit.
hope this helps.
I wrote to Eberspächer at the beginning of the week asking the top 5 questions that keep appearing on the forum but as yet am still waiting for a reply from them, if they ever do I will post it on PBO which is the most popular Eberspächer help line. I even invited an Eberspächer man to enter the forums, but I would not hold much help, maybe Keith would have more luck as a representative of YBW, it is about time we had a Rod Carr type repeat.
It sounds like your fuse has popped, there should be an in-line fuse on the main supply to the heater, about 35A I think. If you have a voltmeter measure the supply on the main cables near to the heater, I am guessing yours will be dead.
It could also be that you have a switch somewhere in line to isolate the heater, mine is straight off the port main battery switch to keep the cable runs as short as possible. It might be prudent if you are having problems to rewire your setup with much heavier cable (light engine starter like found on old mini vans is ideal). I found that it would have been mad for me to even attempt to run through the main panel, this also stops accidental switch offs which might bypass the cooling cycle and damage the unit.
hope this helps.
Lucianos
New member
Hi Robin, I have the same problem with the fan motor, I did try to call Eberspacher in Italy without success. I'm
thinking to buy another brand, i'm really disappointed about this brand..
http://comet11.blogspot.com/
thinking to buy another brand, i'm really disappointed about this brand..
http://comet11.blogspot.com/
racha
New member
I have the same heater and also live on-board in the Mediterranean, Spain.
I just replaced my 3thrd blower witch cost +- €500, wenn I complained Eberspracher told me that the heating system is not to use the whole winter but only to help you trough cold days, Eberspracher finds it normal that their brushes have a life of 3000 hours.
As it works it´s gives a nice warm airflow in the whole ship, it uses about 150 litres of diesel a month!!
And it breaks down on regularly base.
The system is 10 years old now and I have spend about €1600 in new parts over the years.
Nauti Fox
Well-known member
Just a mention that I replaced the brushes on my D4 Airtronic. The motor can be disassembled with some care, I took it to a specialist who made new brushes. Put it all back together, also renewing the bearings (really important you accurately measure their position on the shaft) and it now runs ok, for a cost of approx £30.00.
I've also now got a S/H motor off Ebay as a spare.
Apart from that one problem its been very reliable (live-aboard) and has been worked hard, although I do run it on paraffin most of the time.
It was bought off Ebay a couple of years ago, and has been one of my better decisions.
I've also now got a S/H motor off Ebay as a spare.
Apart from that one problem its been very reliable (live-aboard) and has been worked hard, although I do run it on paraffin most of the time.
It was bought off Ebay a couple of years ago, and has been one of my better decisions.
Ellaboat
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Eberspacher heating
I bought a secondhand D1LCc on Ebay and fitted it at the start of a very cold winter week aboard.
Everyone appears to have their own opinion on diesel fired blown air heaters (usually based on their own experience). In that respect and after 4 years of faultless service I have joined the ranks of those totally sold on Eberspacher.
It's not true that you need an Eberspacher dealer to reset your unit, but you need to be responsible about it because it will have locked you out for a reason. The cause needs to be fixed before the unit is going to operate safely and reliably.
If you want to read about someone elses experience of fitting one of these (together with technical info) you may find this helpful:-
http://www.the-norfolk-broads.co.uk/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=38&Topic=3120
Unfortunately, it's a bit long winded but there's plenty of info there.
I bought a secondhand D1LCc on Ebay and fitted it at the start of a very cold winter week aboard.
Everyone appears to have their own opinion on diesel fired blown air heaters (usually based on their own experience). In that respect and after 4 years of faultless service I have joined the ranks of those totally sold on Eberspacher.
It's not true that you need an Eberspacher dealer to reset your unit, but you need to be responsible about it because it will have locked you out for a reason. The cause needs to be fixed before the unit is going to operate safely and reliably.
If you want to read about someone elses experience of fitting one of these (together with technical info) you may find this helpful:-
http://www.the-norfolk-broads.co.uk/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=38&Topic=3120
Unfortunately, it's a bit long winded but there's plenty of info there.
superchip
Member
I to have this problem with my eberspacher model d7L a1992 year model after taking it off and giving it to a eberspacher dealer to repair i was told it had a fualty heat senser and because of its age this part is no longer available
Wiggo
New member
Quite.
Ours was an absolute basket case for a couple of years, despite servicing it myself, having it serviced and eventually and ripping it out and taking it to the expensive Ebespacher man several times.
In the end, I went back to first principles and effectively reinstalled it, but this time according to the manufacturer's instructions. Nett result: no problems in the last two and a half years. Just one mis-start in the depths of winter this year after it hadn't run for 9 months, and even then it fired up correctly on the second attempt.
They're fine pieces of kit, they just need setting up properly.
Wiggo
New member
Same thing here in the depths of winter: the saloon gets really toasty and the for'd cabin is a little chilly to put it mildly. Only really an issue when there's ice on the pontoon, but it may be worth figuring out how to restrict the main outlet. The only caveat on that is that if you get it wrong and put too much resistance in, the unit will overheat and shut itself down...
jellyellie
New member
We have the same 'problem'. One of our Eber outlets has adjustable vents, so we can just close the one in the saloon so it all ends up in the forepeak... in theory. In reality, of course, only one of the vents out of the three is adjustable, and it happens to be the one in the forepeak; the one we don't need to close!
On the general Eber reliability debate: our 1980 CV34 came with an early 1980s Eberspacher fitted. James fitted a new wick when we bought her to get it up and running, and we've since had to replace the glow plug, but apart from that she's sweet... and older than me!
Wiggo
New member
The Eberspacher manual points out that for safety, you must have one vent that can't be closed off, else the thing will overheat. The burner is in the lazarette and all the ducting is uninsulated and runs through the engine bay, so it loses a load of heat before it even gets to the sharp end. The ducting gets smaller as you go forward, so it's not possible to swap the big fixed vent in the saloon with the one in the for'd cabin, either, though doubtless you could if you bought the right adapters and cut different holes.
