stuartbaggs
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Where is it?
EA License Enforcment
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Where is it?
boatone
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I think Chris is probably referring to Jim Sheads List
teddington_lock
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You are correct , it is simples.
That is why we have NLS , which can be looked up , but rather than having to look up every boat , it's easier to look for the licence. If it isn't obviously on show , then a notice gets put on , simples
. They aren't going to be clambering over boats looking on the 'other side' and i don't think it is fair to expect the crews to do so .Does it not say to display your licence on a forward facing window ? which window do you display your car tax on ?
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Chill
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You are correct , it is simples.
That is why we have NLS , which can be looked up , but rather than having to look up every boat , it's easier to look for the licence. If it isn't obviously on show , then a notice gets put on , simples
Does it not say to display your licence on a forward facing window ? which window do you display your car tax on ?
I would say the crew who issued the notice to the OP were "Simples" If they have NLS why didnt they check it? surely it takes longer to write out the notice along with any other paperwork that supports it than to check the list??????
Do you all still get a brown pay packet with cash in every Friday too?
Celica
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I take it that no-one else makes a simple mistake in their jobs!! An EA operative makes one and a whole thread EA bashing. Lets face it, its hardly a friendly fire incident is it!
One unlicenced boat report doesn't make you FBI's most wanted, once the licencing team check against the boat name the report is written off.
NLS may not be the best system in the world but the cost of buying a new system for licencing is a lot dearer than a simple phone call to sort the misunderstanding out. At the end of the day we are only human!!!
One unlicenced boat report doesn't make you FBI's most wanted, once the licencing team check against the boat name the report is written off.
NLS may not be the best system in the world but the cost of buying a new system for licencing is a lot dearer than a simple phone call to sort the misunderstanding out. At the end of the day we are only human!!!
BrendanS
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You aren't going to get on well in the ybw forums if you talk sense and are halfway reasonable!
Chris_d
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Well its dissapointing if a notice is put on a boat with an allegedly clearly displayed license, but yes hardly worth writing to ones MP about. If I get one stuck on my boat I will laugh and throw it in the bin, I'm not going to be prosecuted am I when I'm fully paid up, however I will report it to the forum
TrueBlue
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Look at it this way:-
[boring, practical mode ON]
The original annoyance has shown that marinas have / are being inspected (despite opinions voiced a while ago that they would not). That's a plus point to my mind. The larger groups ALL make it a condition that boats in water in their marinas must be licenced - even before the new regime was introduced.
A notice affixed to your boat indicates that either no licence plate was displayed OR was unreadable from the inspector's position at least is shows that someone had passed by. (If a handheld device had indicated that the vessel was licenced - then you'd never know that EA was inspecting boats, would you??)
I would hope and expect that when the team return to Reading Towers they (or some poor benighted office wallah) will check on the "system" that the vessel is licenced before issuing a further compliance notice (or whatever). If this is not performed then methinks affected owners would have a reasonable cause for a grizzle.
With some 18,000 (?) licenseable boats on the River it's an horrendous task to police evaders efficiently and effectively. More patrols would help as well as a proper IT system - perhaps with character recognition software (thinks - what are those "blodges" blocks called which appear ever increasingly on printed pages) to show that an inspector has passed by and noticed that you have complied. In the same way that credit card use of locks (as suggested) isn't going to happen - neither is this one, purely on the basis of cost and probably that every gov't inspired IT system is a disaster
[aforesaid mode OFF]
Top marks to EA for raising the profile of inspections.
Top marks (in a way) for pointing out (even though it was a complaint) that a little blue boat / white van had been to his marina.
Lots of ammunition above - so come on folks.....
[boring, practical mode ON]
The original annoyance has shown that marinas have / are being inspected (despite opinions voiced a while ago that they would not). That's a plus point to my mind. The larger groups ALL make it a condition that boats in water in their marinas must be licenced - even before the new regime was introduced.
A notice affixed to your boat indicates that either no licence plate was displayed OR was unreadable from the inspector's position at least is shows that someone had passed by. (If a handheld device had indicated that the vessel was licenced - then you'd never know that EA was inspecting boats, would you??)
I would hope and expect that when the team return to Reading Towers they (or some poor benighted office wallah) will check on the "system" that the vessel is licenced before issuing a further compliance notice (or whatever). If this is not performed then methinks affected owners would have a reasonable cause for a grizzle.
With some 18,000 (?) licenseable boats on the River it's an horrendous task to police evaders efficiently and effectively. More patrols would help as well as a proper IT system - perhaps with character recognition software (thinks - what are those "blodges" blocks called which appear ever increasingly on printed pages) to show that an inspector has passed by and noticed that you have complied. In the same way that credit card use of locks (as suggested) isn't going to happen - neither is this one, purely on the basis of cost and probably that every gov't inspired IT system is a disaster
[aforesaid mode OFF]
Top marks to EA for raising the profile of inspections.
Top marks (in a way) for pointing out (even though it was a complaint) that a little blue boat / white van had been to his marina.
Lots of ammunition above - so come on folks.....
teddington_lock
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The guys are trying to do a job , there will always be people who are just out to critisise , whatever happens. I'm not quite sure why you are so outraged ? No real hardship was it to peel the notice off ? So they made a mistake.
As i asked earlier , where does it say to display your licence ? on a 'forward facing' window or on a 'side' window , once again , which window do you display your car tax on ?
And no , the envelopes are white now.
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apollo
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When we get the licence, on the piece of paper we have to tear it from (presumably a serated/punched sheet of paper would cost too much) - in the instructions it does say to mount on a forward facing port window....
Brayman
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Did I not say that a page or two ago, glad I wasn't dreaming.
apollo
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Probably, but perish the thought, maybe folks not paying attention to you Ian!
boatone
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From the definitive statement:
No further comment - stop knocking people who are out there doing what we require of them.
As this comes immediately after Apollos post he will no doubt think I am getting at him Not so = I am getting at those who have been giving the EA stick instead of cutting them some slack !
No further comment - stop knocking people who are out there doing what we require of them.
As this comes immediately after Apollos post he will no doubt think I am getting at him
Not so = I am getting at those who have been giving the EA stick instead of cutting them some slack !
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apollo
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As this comes immediately after Apollos post he will no doubt think I am getting at him
Why not every other bugger does...
Still remember sitting on my own at the do.
Ramage
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Someone said something about black balls.......
(Mind you it didn't work on No Regrets!!).
To get back on topic my Licence is on the port forward facing windscreen.
(Way up in the air on the hard at Penton Hook Marina!).
apollo
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Someone said something about black balls.......
I'll have you know that mine are sausage shaped!!!
..and dangling in the water where they belong.
teddington_lock
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Someone said something about black balls.......
(Mind you it didn't work on No Regrets!!).
To get back on topic my Licence is on the port forward facing windscreen.
(Way up in the air on the hard at Penton Hook Marina!).
I heard on the grapevine that there are several 'long term' hardstanding boats at PHM , due to the hardstanding fees being so much lower than the marina ?
People don't have to licence them that way . But i gather PHM are going to have a 'review' of long term hardstanding fees ?
Ramage
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apollo
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Quite right too!
SWMBO warns that you might suffer frostbite soon!
Not frostbite, but they do shrink a bit with the cold, but i get SWMBO to pump them up again.....
Ramage
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