Drying out moorings anywhere uk

[Trevor1471]

All good ideas ... but >>>>>

Generators are so often hated and can lead to upset 'neighbours' ... I've known 'marina' ask an owner not to run generator .... eventually asking owner to leave and find another berth.

It would be so much better for you to find a friendly old yard to get the boat stood in out of water ... one yard I knew years ago that was just the ticket for this : Paynes Yard on Thorney Island ... but I think they shut down years ago ,,,,
If you find such - you will often be with like minded owners and the wealth of info, help from them.

My 25ft motor sailer has just had one keel repaired - in main cabin grinding and GRP work ... believe me when I say - that boat is now unlivable .. in fact going inside now is not when wind is blowing into cabin !! During the work vacuum cleaners were running to collect as much of the dust as possible ... I am still months later trying to clean up ... its EVERYWHERE .....

I'm definitely going to look into the yard/farmer/land idea, it never even crossed my mind to be honest, until mentioned here, I could even offer to help out around the place like they do on workaways and woofing which would be even better suited.

When the person got asked not to run his generator was he using it in the evening or early mornings?
Because I could understand someone getting cheesed off with that, but surely 10am to 4pm would be understandable while working.
Also maybe if I could plan and use it only in the week when most are away from there boat.

A very good point though thank you, I'll definitely need to look into the dB it generates when choosing one.

 

[ylop]

I'm definitely going to look into the yard/farmer/land idea, it never even crossed my mind to be honest, until mentioned here, I could even offer to help out around the place like they do on workaways and woofing which would be even better suited.

Look at small boatyards - lots of them around the country who will allow you do do the work yourself. They may officially not allow live aboards but I know of one who's view is the place is actually more secure if there's someone sleeping on board, so unless the council get shirty they didn't care!

When the person got asked not to run his generator was he using it in the evening or early mornings?
Because I could understand someone getting cheesed off with that, but surely 10am to 4pm would be understandable while working.
Also maybe if I could plan and use it only in the week when most are away from there boat.

I think you might be misunderstanding what other people in marina's expect. Certainly there will be ad-hoc noise (and halyard noise at all hours) but people who have quietly enjoyed the same berth get grumpy when everyday for hours on and there is the rattle of a genny. A one off - nobody will make too much fuss. Every day for a week - someone will be grumbling. If its a new guy with a scruffy boat... judgements will be made!

 

[Trevor1471]

All good ideas ... but >>>>>

Generators are so often hated and can lead to upset 'neighbours' ... I've known 'marina' ask an owner not to run generator .... eventually asking owner to leave and find another berth.

It would be so much better for you to find a friendly old yard to get the boat stood in out of water ... one yard I knew years ago that was just the ticket for this : Paynes Yard on Thorney Island ... but I think they shut down years ago ,,,,
If you find such - you will often be with like minded owners and the wealth of info, help from them.

My 25ft motor sailer has just had one keel repaired - in main cabin grinding and GRP work ... believe me when I say - that boat is now unlivable .. in fact going inside now is not when wind is blowing into cabin !! During the work vacuum cleaners were running to collect as much of the dust as possible ... I am still months later trying to clean up ... its EVERYWHERE .....

Sorry forgot to add about the dust (unsure how to edit).

Dust is my nemesis, especially brick dust, so in two houses (ex council) we removed the kitchen/dinning room dividing walls, which I decided to cut the bricks that came out of the joining walls with an angle grinder, a nice neat finish but months of dust (where it kept coming from I still don't know) .
Also we've had full rewire on all and to save on costs I've done all the chasing and removed all down stairs ceilings, the savings where worth it but the dust was a nightmare.

Fun and games to save afew quid.

 

[veshengro]

Check your PM's Trevor.

 

[Trevor1471]

Look at small boatyards - lots of them around the country who will allow you do do the work yourself. They may officially not allow live aboards but I know of one who's view is the place is actually more secure if there's someone sleeping on board, so unless the council get shirty they didn't care!

I think you might be misunderstanding what other people in marina's expect. Certainly there will be ad-hoc noise (and halyard noise at all hours) but people who have quietly enjoyed the same berth get grumpy when everyday for hours on and there is the rattle of a genny. A one off - nobody will make too much fuss. Every day for a week - someone will be grumbling. If its a new guy with a scruffy boat... judgements will be made!

Very good points thank you.

I think the yard is the way forward, a shame as looking into the club's looked a great option, definitely the socialising aspect, but again that will make your point more valid, on the quiet lifestyle they'd expect.

Maybe once all the big jobs are done, which is normally double if not more the time you plan from experience, as one job leads onto ten more.

 

[Gixer]

Look at small boatyards - lots of them around the country who will allow you do do the work yourself. They may officially not allow live aboards but I know of one who's view is the place is actually more secure if there's someone sleeping on board, so unless the council get shirty they didn't care!

A few places I've seen are ok with this for two years but then have the right to double the ground rent. It's a way to try and stop people living onboard a 'project' boat. A few guys I know have been caught by this, some just pay the double price.

Another guy I knew was doing up a 40f boat, he got fed up with living in a building site and managed to secure for free a 25f boat which he moored alongside as a 'tender' and lived in that. Still not sure he ever paid rent for the 25f boat LOL.

 

[Wansworth]

Set up a proper access to deck and a plastic shelter over the cockpit companion way so you can use the cockpit

 

[Refueler]

Very good points thank you.

I think the yard is the way forward, a shame as looking into the club's looked a great option, definitely the socialising aspect, but again that will make your point more valid, on the quiet lifestyle they'd expect.

Maybe once all the big jobs are done, which is normally double if not more the time you plan from experience, as one job leads onto ten more.

Believe me - onshore in a yard is the way to do it ... you can usually get your car / van alongside to get materials / tools handy ... disposal of rubbish etc is far easier .... your Generator will not annoy others as they probably are using theirs as well !

True that if all big jobs are done - then moving to water is a possibility ... BUT the ease of working onshore far outweighs putting boat in water ...

I've known 'grass-field yards' have BBQ's ... get togethers ... all depends on you and interaction with others ...

My Father had his Hilyard in Paynes field - Thorney island ... and we had really great times there ... we'd help each other with all sorts of jobs on each others boats ... sit round a fire in evening .. beers and so on ..

 

[Wansworth]

Handy tip……..if you have a choice a nearby cafe is a god send!

 

[Refueler]

When FS&MBC refused my membership ... I was in Thornham Marina on Thorney Island ... very friendly .... not expensive .... the couple who ran it did a marvelous Sunday lunch etc ... eventually creating an on-site cafe.
It was a really good place except for one thing ... water depth was minimal on the pontoons and even my Alacrity 19 was stuck on neaps ... Nature Conservancy prevented dredging of the small bay as well as the moorings. The hard was basically stone layer across the 'field' creating a good base. Water etc drained away easily.

But it all changed when it was bought up by a Marina outfit ... prices up ... the DIY - renovate boats people left and it changed character ...

But it may be worth a look ...

https://www.thornhammarina.com/

 

[veshengro]

But it all changed when it was bought up by a Marina outfit ... prices up ... the DIY - renovate boats people left and it changed character

I was there a few years ago 2018 ish? and as you say it was swallowed by a big Marina owning company, the lady who ran it was replaced by someone who said things like, " Going forward" and yep.."Reaching out" and the berthing prices went up. The cafe actually burned down... After I had left that is...

 

[Petertheking1982]

Haven't read previous replies so sorry if mentioned. Langstone Harbour about £150 a year, but you do need to sink your own (or pay local mooring guy to do it). Access roughly 3 hours either side of high depending on location.

 

[Petertheking1982]

Just read replies. Could consider cowes / river medina mid river pontoons (about £1000 from memory). Hayling yacht company are good value yard / drying pontoons. And Gosport Boat yard and moorings (not gosport marina, different company). Dell Quay boat yard should be good value.

 

[ylop]

Very good points thank you.

I think the yard is the way forward, a shame as looking into the club's looked a great option, definitely the socialising aspect, but again that will make your point more valid, on the quiet lifestyle they'd expect.

Maybe once all the big jobs are done, which is normally double if not more the time you plan from experience, as one job leads onto ten more.

Some clubs might actually run as essentially informal boat yards - up this way if its called a "boat club" rather than a "sailing club" its a good sign there may be boats in various states of repair - often with a collective haul-in/out day each year etc. Power tools not likely to a problem at a boat club but they may be less receptive to long term liveaboards.

 

[Trevor1471]

Just read replies. Could consider cowes / river medina mid river pontoons (about £1000 from memory). Hayling yacht company are good value yard / drying pontoons. And Gosport Boat yard and moorings (not gosport marina, different company). Dell Quay boat yard should be good value.

Thank you, I good amount to contact there and the langstone one sounds very interesting.

 

[Petertheking1982]

Thank you, I good amount to contact there and the langstone one sounds very interesting.

There are some sheltered spots in langston (thinking just north of southsea marina portsmouth side). Two pontoons (Hayling ferry) for pick up / drop off with water on Hayling side. If working / living on board I would probably pick the cowes medina mid river pontoons (tender / taxi service but not cheap) as very sheltered (winter on a mooring buoy bit grim in uk) and pontoons to dump stuff on (ie generator), marinas and shops close by BUT you would be stuck on isle of Wight

Edit I think the tidal moorings in langston are max 30ft, but do ask them. The full tide moorings are £1150 but exposed in bad weather.

 

[ridgy]

Problem with a mooring is that you probably have to vacate it in winter and go ashore.

This is your place, up the mersey at Warrington. I arrived yesterday for the winter.
470 per year, secure alongside canal mooring with very reasonable full service boatyard available. Specialises in the poorer end of boating with many old boats undergoing glacial refits

Fiddlers Ferry Boatyard, North West Marina & Boatyard with storage

Pleasant rural place with nice pub next door. Plenty of boat fixing single gentlemen to socialise with.

 

[Wansworth]

Problem with a mooring is that you probably have to vacate it in winter and go ashore.

This is your place, up the mersey at Warrington. I arrived yesterday for the winter.
470 per year, secure alongside canal mooring with very reasonable full service boatyard available. Specialises in the poorer end of boating with many old boats undergoing glacial refits

Fiddlers Ferry Boatyard, North West Marina & Boatyard with storage

Pleasant rural place with nice pub next door. Plenty of boat fixing single gentlemen to socialise with.

Sounds like paradise

 

[B27]

I appreciate the advice but I've lived in and out of building sites while renovating the 4 houses we've lived in.

Doing everything from electrics, plumbing, carpentry, bricklaying, plastering ect.

I'm a welder/fabricator by trade but am willing to clean toilets if needs be.

The budget is set so I can comfortably live for 4-5yrs or frugal for 10.

But I do appreciate the advice thanks

The difference is that there is money in renovating houses.
A ~30ft boat will absorb a great deal of your time and won't be worth much when you're done..
It's not like the classic car market either.
There are far more old boats around than people wanting to pay good money to buy and keep them.

Also living aboard a boat outside the Summer gives the boat a hard time. The damp of people living and cooking takes a toll.
The wear and tear on the interior and particularly the upholstery is expensive to put right.

And while you're doing that, all the equipment is getting older.
Boats are constant work to keep in good order.

All that talk of generators suggests you really haven't looked into this properly.
What boat needs all this generator work?
You can get boats which don't need any of that for next to nothing, so what's the point?

I suggest a careful study of the market.

 

[Trevor1471]

The difference is that there is money in renovating houses.
A ~30ft boat will absorb a great deal of your time and won't be worth much when you're done..
It's not like the classic car market either.
There are far more old boats around than people wanting to pay good money to buy and keep them.

Also living aboard a boat outside the Summer gives the boat a hard time. The damp of people living and cooking takes a toll.
The wear and tear on the interior and particularly the upholstery is expensive to put right.

And while you're doing that, all the equipment is getting older.
Boats are constant work to keep in good order.

All that talk of generators suggests you really haven't looked into this properly.
What boat needs all this generator work?
You can get boats which don't need any of that for next to nothing, so what's the point?

I suggest a careful study of the market.

The generator would be for power tools when needed (was planning on drying out moorings with no power, to keep the costs low), and then for topping up batteries when the sun doesn't shine as much (so I don't need hours on to the engine, each time).

I wanted abit more of a project to sink my thoughts into instead of moping about with mind wandering to other things (23yrs is alot of memories), but I can see your point on purchasing a near enough read to go instead.

I really appreciate the shake down, at the moment I have all different ideas/gadgets I'd like to install and play about with, like solar arch with Davids, adding a fridge and rice cooker (I know, but I love rice and always end up with a glue when I try), antifouling with my large sander (what I use for plastered walls after boarding and filling(it's ment to be used on car/van panels buffing/sanding)), jigsaw/planner/palm sander/drill for shelves/flooring/deck, angle grinder, little mig/stick welder for light work if needed, nothing for the engine needs power/ sewing machine is powerless, I could in theory use older tools for alot of which don't require power but plenty of elbow grease (you've got me thinking again now)

OK I can see my weight going through the roof now or the bottom of the drink is probably better suited.

I'm not in it for any profit, more to take time out and figure out what's next (if that makes sense).

But again I appreciate your questioning, thank you