Driving in France - NB

[BrendanS]

For those that drive frequently in France. Just seen on news. Looks like in future if you get caught speeding in France, instead of just a fine, you'll actually get points on your licence in UK!!


Bummer!

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[gonfishing]

Ahh !! Typical of the French Goverment to try to undermine Phoney Blairs extra Revenue Generation Scheme, just as he plans to drop points on licences for speeding, so that he can keep more revenue producers driving on the roads, the French are trying to get them banned!! So I guess what will happen is the French will inform the D.V.L.A of violations we will have to pay the French Police, an on the spot fine, then on return to the U.K, another fine as points on liceneces for speeding will have been aboloshed!!!

We'll not win no matter who's in the top seat!!!!



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[Jools_of_Top_Cat]

Bugger

When I used to race down to Le Mans the £90 fine was a risk taken to see how fast you could get there.

Bloody Euro licences.

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[BrendanS]

Agree, fine was a simple risk. Losing licence makes it a pain.

That's probably why they're introducing it.

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[BarryH]

Easy just change you number plates a'la 007. The frogs may be able to inform DVLA about the said eager right foot, but they have no access to the database. I've never carried my license when we've gone over the channel and have never been asked for it. Don't know if its still the same.

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[BrendanS]

If they do introduce it (and news was short on details) they must have some way of getting info into/outof DVLC. and they love targetting Brits for speeding. Easy money.

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[JEG]

May I suggest a method that could obviate any contributions to the state thugs in either country - keep to the speed limit.

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[tcm]

Re: Total bollox

For the last 20 years or more, this sort of story has been pedalled in the Daily Scare.

One of these comes out shortly before the "driving to france" season starts, and usually takes the form of some awful new potential threat to UK drivers in france. Sometimes it's the "fact" that they can time how long you took to travel between tolls and issue an automatic fine. Yet if there is such a computational ability, it seems never to be used. This year, apparently, there'll be co-operation between UK and french police - highly unlikely because there isn't even co-operation between local and national police, or even between a group of roadblocking police and other police not involved in that roadblock - lots of examples thereof.

If you *do* want to get nicked for speeding in france, choose a time between 8:30 am and 12:30 pm local time, or afternoons 2pm to 7pm. Speed up near urban areas. Have a nice big radar detector on show. Especially for the last few miles before peages, if you see a car "broken down" ahead on the hard shoulder with the hatchback open - ignore it it and hammer along - it's a mobile speed camera.

Far more trouble awaits the unware UK driver and it's a pity that these aren't given more publicity. For example, at an overnight stop is always best taken within the toll areas of peages, rather at motel in toll-free sections like Reims, where brit cars are an easy and profitable target for opportunistic thieves.

Of course, speeding can't be condoned, and it could be highly dangerous.

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[andyball]

of course speeding isn\'t big,clever or funny

& if you want to get nicked in Belgium...ignore the blokes in orange fluorescent jackets working within the central reservation, also the occasional ordinary looking car parked there.

ps, real blokes, not the automated dummys, one of which has had its trousers pulled down round its ankles.

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[sailbadthesinner]

that's just crazy talk
but it might just work

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[theguvnor]

It surprises me somewhat that the people who would never speed in a marina or cause discomfort to others with their wash, seem to think driving like a prat at speeds that will do more harm to pedestrians and other road users is fair game. Have none of you seen the appaling injuries caused to their, and others, loved ones.To worry about a speeding fine rather than being responsible for putting some innocent person (perhaps your kid of wife) into a wheelchair for life seems a tad crass. Have any of you tried to use your boat in a wheelchair?

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[tcm]

Re: Good point well made!

What an excellent post- not at all feeble-minded, or policially correct but real original thought!

Indeed - what's so sensible about risking your life going to sea for no reason at all anyway? It's much more dangerous and hence should be heavily taxed, or banned. I think that these these lunatic so-called adventurers were stopped, and go to cowes by ferry if they really need to do so. Likewise, motorists can go by rail or plane, which is faster anyway, and much less dangerous.







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[theguvnor]

Re: Good point well made!

Are you suggesting that power boating is as dangerous as driving (racing) through France. Risk your life if you wish (I regularly go hang gliding and have a microlight, not heavily taxed or banned) but by what right can anyone risk other peoples lives. I have found that the more dangerous sports have the most professional players - with the exception of the twat who drives his car with his baseball cap on backwards - you think they are adventurers???

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[andyball]

Re: Good point well made!

what about the adventurers who ride atop trains for fun- very dangerous, & presumably very professional they are. But that's not a sport is it?, tho prob. is to those who take part.

You've clearly assessed the risks of your hang-glider/little plane crashing on someone/something, but won't accept that anyone else might make the same assessment about driving a car.



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[JEG]

Re: Good point well made!

Anyone is welcome to travel at speed on a racetrack; the reason it is deemed sensible to control it upon the publc highway is because those who do so endanger others. If you want go fast, create the wealth & buy a Lear.

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[theguvnor]

Re: Good point well made!

You've clearly assessed the risks of your hang-glider/little plane crashing on someone/something, but won't accept that anyone else might make the same assessment about driving a car.

I don't think the Judge or the next-of-kin may agree with the "assessment" of some drivers on the M25

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[jfm]

Sounds like daily mail tosh. If fined in france, you will not have been convicted of anything by a court process recognised in the UK or indeed by the human rights act. Yes, you might have paid a fine and signed some ticket (in Frecnh) on the roadside, but that is not admission of guilt it is an expedience becos you were about to miss ferry if you argue.

So, back in UK what exactly are they going to punish you for? Is getting stopped and not proven to have done anything wrong in a foreign country a punishable act in the UK? Please show me the statute wehre it says this. If any prosecution were made, you just plead not guilty to everything. Are they gonna bring the gendarme to UK to testify in an English court that he saw you speeding? NB esp good to pay cash fine so no cheque record created either.

Think about it. This is bolx, will not work

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[BrendanS]

I'm only repeating what ITN reported. They were pretty short on details on how it would work

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[EME]

Being of perverse mind..

and having been caught speeding in France, and sorry, yes it is apparently the new French game to get caught by the limited number of 'gatsos', I digress.

Surely the act of treason carried out abroad is punishable in the UK? Think hijacking in international airspace and the high seas also punishable in country where plane/vessel registered ..? SO quite easy to change laws??

Just being awkward.

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[BrendanS]

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bit more info here. Seems it early days

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