Draft list of ten tips for sailing on a budget -

[ghostlymoron]

Where are these talks taking place - Glasgow?

wine boxes - brilliant on a boat. They do not fall over, they fit lockers nicely, plenty for guests - their expectations are not high and many are pleasantly surprised - then I break open the co-op scotch and their happiness is complete

this is the talks schedule



Friday 14th October

11-12 Essential sealant tips and tricks

Sika’s technical services expert Gareth Ross will give a talk with demonstrations on how to use sealants for bonding and waterproofing on board.

2-3 Boating on a budget

PBO contributor, former BBC cameraman and round-Britain sailor Dylan Winter will be bringing his ‘clonky old bucket-shop Centaur’ to the show to share top tips on affordable cruising.

3.30 – 4.30 How to read the skies

Met Office weather forecaster Penny Tranter will share her knowledge of preparing for and responding to impacts from the weather.

Saturday 15th October

11-12 Essential sealant tips and tricks

Sika’s technical services expert Gareth Ross will give a talk with demonstrations on how to use sealants for bonding and waterproofing on board.

2-3 How to read the skies

Met Office weather forecaster Penny Tranter will share her knowledge of preparing for and responding to impacts from the weather.

3.30 – 4.30 Boating on a budget

PBO contributor, former BBC cameraman and round-Britain sailor Dylan Winter will be bringing his ‘clonky old bucket-shop Centaur’ to the show to share top tips on affordable cruising.

Sunday 16th October

11-12 How to read the skies

Met Office weather forecaster Penny Tranter will share her knowledge of preparing for and responding to impacts from the weather.

2-3 What’s causing your corrosion?

PBO contributor Colin Brown will give a corrosion-specific talk on boat surveys.

3.30 – 4.30 Boating on a budget

PBO contributor, former BBC cameraman and round-Britain sailor Dylan Winter will be bringing his ‘clonky old bucket-shop Centaur’ to the show to share top tips on affordable cruising.

I am a bit worried about the friday one and fear that I will be speaking to myself

 

[dylanwinter]

Where are these talks taking place - Glasgow?

at Kip Marina near Glasgow

I am trying to get the first one moved to the afternoon slot - they will go down better if the odd memeber of the audience has already had a beer

let people leave the show with some great images in their heads - lovely boats - a few KTL products on display such as the Tool Fanny

 

[Scotsailor]

I think another tip is that it's important to involve your partner in the sailing. Don't treat them just as a passenger. Encourage them to be involved with stuff. That way it's more likely to be something you will do for many years rather than sell the boat in a couple of years. That's my suggestion anyway.

 

[James Marinero]

Maximize the budget
Marry a rich woman (or did somebody say that already)?
Maybe @scotsailor should have said that?

 

[dylanwinter]

I think another tip is that it's important to involve your partner in the sailing. Don't treat them just as a passenger. Encourage them to be involved with stuff. That way it's more likely to be something you will do for many years rather than sell the boat in a couple of years. That's my suggestion anyway.

I am not entirely sure. The management of partners who are less keen than you is an artform that is hard to master. Everyone is different. I do see lots of blokes who are sailing boats that are too big because they involved their partner in the purchase. I am luckier than most - Jill is the daughter of a sailor and came to me well trained. However, there are not amny people who are keen on sailing as I am. There is also a big physical difference between us. I am a fifteen stone cold tolerant Celt. The is an 8 stone softy southern stock and is much less cold tolerant than I am.

She is finding Scotland in a Centaur too tough unless they are having a heatwave. At the moment I am sailing one week on and one week off. The bofs at the Institute of Boat Psychology - Oxford - have done a study and come up with some recommendations.

Involving the partner is an admirable thing - but it can be counterproductive for the budget boat sailor.

 

[alan_d]

The management of partners who are less keen than you is an artform that is hard to master. Everyone is different. I do see lots of blokes who are sailing boats that are too big because they involved their partner in the purchase.
[SNIP}
Involving the partner is an admirable thing - but it can be counterproductive for the budget boat sailor.

I think that this is a truth which is insufficiently recognised. My wife is not keen on sailing, will sometimes accompany me as a passenger if it is somewhere warm, but made it clear that I should buy the boat that I wanted, without input from her. As a result I have a boat I am very happy with and can easily manage single-handed.

I too know blokes who have boats towards the country-cottage end of the spectrum whose wives still don't sail with them and who sail a lot less than they would like because of the need for crew.

 

[dylanwinter]

some-one is listening.

I said earlier in the thread that if I got the boat at the show

- which is now looking quite likely -

she will be open for visitors with ad-lib instant coffee heated on the Origo and biscuits all round

two days after I posted that the Amazon man arrived.

My wife gave me one of those "what have you been wasting our money on now" looks.

but inside was this

blimey

 

[Bru]

Boats look much bigger when out of the water, and it's the only time you wish it was smaller / are glad it's not any bigger because all you see are the acres of surface that need to be maintained

Ain't that the truth! (Having just spent an inordinate amount of time, effort and no small amount of money turning something akin to the lunar landscape into something that bears a passable resemblance to a smooth hull! She's 33 foot in the water and about a square mile and then some out of it!)

 

[Billows]

Avoid marinas and boatyards
Buy a small sail boat ready to sail with a good trailer , a boat you can raise mast on and tow home and store for winter
Pay someone with a van to tow it, no sense in buying a big suv
Buy a boat with an outboard in a well and learn how to service it
Get a cheap mooring close to home
Buy foul weather clothes and boots from where the farmers buy them

Sailing on a budget is all very well but you do need a budget

 

[dylanwinter]

Avoid marinas and boatyards
Buy a small sail boat ready to sail with a good trailer , a boat you can raise mast on and tow home and store for winter
Pay someone with a van to tow it, no sense in buying a big suv
Buy a boat with an outboard in a well and learn how to service it
Get a cheap mooring close to home
Buy foul weather clothes and boots from where the farmers buy them

Sailing on a budget is all very well but you do need a budget

you are right on the money on every count - especially the last about needing a budget of some sort

 

[steve yates]

When you do go ashore, only take enough money for a pint

Noooo, thats just torture! Either stay aboard and drink the wine, or go ashore and have several pints, just spend the food budget. One pint is just not good enough



Dylan, I reckon flat eric could make my mainsail look like an aerofoil! And as you have a red genny, I think you were coming up behind when you first came to plockton, I was going into bay na straighaid around end of july and was just anchoring when a centaur looking type came past with a red genny, kind of poked her nose in a bit as if for a wee look then carried on round the corner to plockton.