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Acshully the demise of the Threlfarmers is a myth perpetuated by the Kiwis, much of their Rugby talent to this day, comes from Threlfarm. They obviously hide this to stop poaching by Australia and Ireland. The Hakka in actual fact, is not a Maori wardance but really the symbolic reenactment of the opening of the first two cans from the St Edakienky .. a sort of Can Can really ..

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Erm... The genuine Thelfarmers are now extinct and the rumours of there cotinued existence are acshually a double bluff on the part of the Kiwi's, who want to trick the trigger happy ausies and irish into invading Thelfarm without a UN mandate. Realizing that the Ausies won't be able to resist augmenting their dwindling reserves of FB, the cunning Kiwis have also made it known there is still a massive supply of FB on the Thelfarm Island, of sufficient magnitude to ensure the pie supplies for the entire Australian population. Convinced that the Thelfarmers present a clear threat to world FB stabilityand have the capacity to eat the world supply of FB in forty five minutes, and needing to feed their millions of ex-pat Aussie rugby players, the Irish PM has joined forces with his Aussie counterpart in pudding together a pie alliance.

With Australia and Ireland preoccupied, New Zealand is set to join with the Brits in seizing the newly discovered pie reserves on Lord Howe Island, found during the cleverly disguised expedition by the RN.


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Acshully a famous early visitor to Thelfarm was Captain J Horner as immortalised in the epic poem

Captain Jack Horner
Sailed round the corner,
To eat a Fray Bentos pie;
Back down the rhumb,
As it shot out his bum,
he said,
What a poor sod am I!



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I've picked this thread up whilst it has been too long in the running - nevertheless, I do feel that comment is necessary in order to add some accuracy to the proceedings.
The Harry Lauder 78 you refer to was in fact an original wax disc of "By Ardentinny"
It was by all accounts his favourite place - Ardentinny that is - he wouldn't think so now as it has changed a lot and the pub is run by a pretentious little prick who drizzles raspberry coulis over everything and I would point out that much as I love the humble cauli - it tastes awful when drizzled in raspbery coulis - a bit like a cabbage mivvi really. most of you wont know what a Mivvi is - but when I finally managed to persuade her that the war was over - around 1956, My old Mum went out and bought me one - she was a wonderful old lady was my Mum. every week she'd get the local Gazette and read the obituaries column and if her name wasn't there she'd go out to the pub - she never could understand how they all managed to die in alphabetical order

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I reckon there are two Jimis. Theres the witty one who posts on the web, then there's the one who sails Glen Poseur to Cherbourg, dragging his knuckles along the pontoon and barely stringing two syllables together while whinging that French wine disagrees with him. It does. Jimi, it does, especially the 5th bottle.

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Doesn't all this go back to the Fray Bentos Crisis of 1976?

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Once upon a time there was no greater treat than a Mivvi. Sunday morning runs to the shop, coz me mum had run out of Bisto or something or other. Then scuttling back with one hand clutching a brown paper bag containing the Bisto (sale of such substances was banned on Sundays), whilst the other proudly supported me melting Mivvi.

Ah those were the days, think I'll go and spread another slice of Hovis.

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Who were the Thelfarm Islanders?

Darwin pointed out how groups of animals living in remote places eventually take on unique characteristics and eventually turn them into distinct species. Such is the case with the people of Threlfarm Island. As unique as a culture as they had become, the Ryaf Netsob left clues as to their origins in their language, art, and beliefs. Contemporary archeologists think it's an open and shut case - the first and only people ever to live on Telfarm Island were from an individual group of Polynesians that, once finding Thelfarm, then had no contact with any other races.
Until of course, that fateful day in 1715 when, on Febrary 14, Dutch commander Kentwist Dekkenbrocken, became the first European to "discover" the island. What his crew witnessed and recorded once on the island has fueled speculation about the origins of the Ryaf Netsob ever since.

They reported a mixed race island with both dark skinned and light living together. Some were even described as having red hair and being sun-burnt looking! This does not fit well in the Polynesian only scenario and despite recent evidence that backs up a migration from another island in the South Pacific, archeologists still must argue the claims of the most well-known, but now, outcast archeologist/explorer Thor Heyerdahl.
Dekkenbrocken's notes tell of the islanders being organized into several classes. The light skinned islanders wore large disks in extended earlobes. Their bodies were heavily tattooed and they worshipped giant pies and performed ceremonies before them. How could light skinned people be living amongst Polynesians on such a remote island?
According to Heyerdahl Thelfarm Island was settled in stages over a period of years by at least two different cultures. One from Polynesia and the other from Europe, possibly Ireland or Scotland.

Heyerdahl also points to similarities between stone monuments in Argentina that resemble the pies found on Shum Moor. In Heyerdahl's view, the sea was alive thousands of years ago with large ocean going canoes that discovered and colonized islands far earlier than history suggests. He points to stories of an advanced Redheaded race in Scotland and currents that swept from Troon to Thelfarm Island and his own so unpublicised trip in 1923 on a reed raft known as the Ken Teaky expedition.

Contemporary archeologists will have none of it. They point to the long history of Polynesian settlement in the South Pacific and linguistic evidence that they say places origins most likely in the Marquesas or Pitcarn Island.

Heyerdahl, they say, dismisses Thefarm Island legends that speak of an origin from the west. Occording to them botanical and anthomorphic data collected clearly back up their view that the island was colonized only once from the west. .
The attacks against his beliefs have been almost universal from the archeological community which will not even refer to Heyerdahl as an archeologist anymore. Heyerdahl has made it clear the feeling is mutual. Both sides in the debate accuse each other with making the evidence fit their own beliefs.

But there is a third origin story that as far fetched as it seems has scientific proof behind it. Around 1536 a manky auld ship, the St Edakienky was lost near Tahiti. Legends tell of the Basque clad survivors intermarrying with the Polynesians. Either they or their descendants set off from Tahiti to try and return home in the 1600's and were never seen again. Interestingly, genetic testing of pure blood Thelfarmers revealed the presence of Basque jeans.

Could Thelfarm Island have been settled by a lost crew of Polynesian and Scottish seafarers? Perhaps science will eventually give us a definitive answer on who the Thelfarmers were. Where ever they came from, the Thelfarmers were an amazing people. They built a highly organized and efficient society on a tiny island out of little more than a few pies and in the few short years it existed created an enigma that has puzzled the world ever since.




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