Dogs onboard

[dgadee]

My daughter's dog, menacing my grandson. However 'cute' the beast looks, it's not for me.
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Lovely wee boy. Not so keen on flat faced dogs. Where did that unhealthy fashion come from?

 

[mjcoon]

Lovely wee boy. Not so keen on flat faced dogs. Where did that unhealthy fashion come from?

Yes, and how has Crufts crept back on TV after having been beyond the pale for all these "cosmetic" breeding fashions and the damage they do to dog's bodies?

 

[Seaway Channel]

We used to sail with 3 dogs and lived aboard subsequently for 2 years on another boat with 2 of them. They just like being with you and adapt really quickly if introduced young. They used to get excited seeing the masts as we drove to the marine. I’ve had more problems caused by people than dogs in marinas…

 

[dgadee]

We used to sail with 3 dogs and lived aboard subsequently for 2 years on another boat with 2 of them. They just like being with you and adapt really quickly if introduced young. They used to get excited seeing the masts as we drove to the marine. I’ve had more problems caused by people than dogs in marinas…View attachment 152879

Problems caused by people complaining about your dogs?

 

[AntarcticPilot]

We used to sail with 3 dogs and lived aboard subsequently for 2 years on another boat with 2 of them. They just like being with you and adapt really quickly if introduced young. They used to get excited seeing the masts as we drove to the marine. I’ve had more problems caused by people than dogs in marinas…View attachment 152879

Amen! For those who don't know dogs, many breeds, especially smaller ones, have been bred to be companions. Even those not specifically bred as companions see "their" humans as senior members of their pack; it's just stronger with companion breeds. A big part of their "psychology" is that they want to be with "their" humans, and life without their humans is diminished. I'm trying not to be too anthropomorphic; all that I say is really an analogy to describe what we observe. But the bottom line is that dogs want to be with "their" humans.

One of my dogs is half Shi-Tzu, an out and out companion breed. He goes absolutely bananas when I come back, even if I've only been away for ten minutes. He settles while I'm away, but my presence fills some sort of hole in his psyche. My other dog likes to be physically in contact with me, as well, but is less demonstrative!

 

[mjcoon]

Amen! For those who don't know dogs, many breeds, especially smaller ones, have been bred to be companions. Even those not specifically bred as companions see "their" humans as senior members of their pack; it's just stronger with companion breeds. A big part of their "psychology" is that they want to be with "their" humans, and life without their humans is diminished. I'm trying not to be too anthropomorphic; all that I say is really an analogy to describe what we observe. But the bottom line is that dogs want to be with "their" humans.

One of my dogs is half Shi-Tzu, an out and out companion breed. He goes absolutely bananas when I come back, even if I've only been away for ten minutes. He settles while I'm away, but my presence fills some sort of hole in his psyche. My other dog likes to be physically in contact with me, as well, but is less demonstrative!

Plus the infantilisation, in which puppies are not allowed to grow up and keep their dependency and lack of maturity.

 

[dgadee]

Amen! For those who don't know dogs, many breeds, especially smaller ones, have been bred to be companions. Even those not specifically bred as companions see "their" humans as senior members of their pack; it's just stronger with companion breeds. A big part of their "psychology" is that they want to be with "their" humans, and life without their humans is diminished. I'm trying not to be too anthropomorphic; all that I say is really an analogy to describe what we observe. But the bottom line is that dogs want to be with "their" humans.

One of my dogs is half Shi-Tzu, an out and out companion breed. He goes absolutely bananas when I come back, even if I've only been away for ten minutes. He settles while I'm away, but my presence fills some sort of hole in his psyche. My other dog likes to be physically in contact with me, as well, but is less demonstrative!

Surely they are group/social animals? Leaving them alone all day long - as many dog lovers do - doesn't fit with their psychology. They might prefer to run around in a pack (as they used to do when I was young) than be tied to one owner.

 

[AntarcticPilot]

Plus the infantilisation, in which puppies are not allowed to grow up and keep their dependency and lack of maturity.

Dogs are, to some extent at least, neotenous wolves (they are a subspecies of Canis lupus ). Their fixation in puppy ways is something that was actively selected for during the process of domestication. So it's not a case of "not allowed to", it's a case of "their ancestors were selected for". In some breeds this has been taken further than in others.

 

[Dellquay13]

What's the concern about them pissing on the pontoon? Genuine question, and probably pertains to to the circumstances of some marinas; most of the ones I've seen seem to acquire guano regularly which then gets washed off by the rain & spray pretty quickly and is a lot more unpleasant on the nose and feet in the interim... the pontoons themselves seem pretty much impervious and the wee washes into the harbour/marina/bay along with the rest of the animal waste in the vicinity.

I get incensed when the dogs around the marina cock their leg over the shore power posts, and then I have to lift the mains socket cover to plug my lead in…
Bad enough when the dogs have been left to roam, worse when the owner has it it on a lead and doesn’t stop it

 

[mjcoon]

Dogs are, to some extent at least, neotenous wolves (they are a subspecies of Canis lupus ). Their fixation in puppy ways is something that was actively selected for during the process of domestication. So it's not a case of "not allowed to", it's a case of "their ancestors were selected for". In some breeds this has been taken further than in others.

I wonder if anyone has done the experiment. Just because something has been selected for does not mean that it becomes genetic. Admittedly, dogs' genomes are so flexible that they can be moulded into all sorts of ridiculous shapes, and kept there, by diligent breeding...

 

[Stemar]

I get incensed when the dogs around the marina cock their leg over the shore power posts, and then I have to lift the mains socket cover to plug my lead in…
Bad enough when the dogs have been left to roam, worse when the owner has it it on a lead and doesn’t stop it

It's a big dog that can reach the mains sockets I've seen.

 

[Dellquay13]

It's a big dog that can reach the mains sockets I've seen.

even the short dogs can reach the ones at Milford

 

[mjcoon]

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even the short dogs can reach the ones at Milford

Especially for their shorting electrolyte!

 

[freespiritdavid]

As opposed to our current boat that had more criteria to be dog friendly than it had to be human friendly!

If you have a dog as a pet, then it is part of your family, so you take it anywhere you would take the other (human) members of your family if you can, and you put up with the hassle of taking your dog in the same way as you would put up with the hassle of taking the other family members, because it's not hassle, it's just what you do for your family.

Dogs are not human albeit a part of your family . They have a place as do disruptive or a pain in the a55 family members ....... not on my boat, end of.

 

[smert]

Dogs are not human albeit a part of your family . They have a place as do disruptive or a pain in the a55 family members ....... not on my boat, end of.

I might have to get another dog, so I don't have to spend time with you on your boat

 

[pragmatist]

Deleted tho goodness knows why

 

[Koeketiene]

Dogs are not human albeit a part of your family . They have a place as do disruptive or a pain in the a55 family members ....... not on my boat, end of.

I must admit I'm somewhat surprised by the venim in this thread towards dog owners.

FWIW: I tend to steer clear of two kinds of people
1. People who don't like dogs
2. People my dogs don't like
Served me well so far, and I think I'm sticking with it.

 

[freespiritdavid]

I must admit I'm somewhat surprised by the venim in this thread towards dog owners.

FWIW: I tend to steer clear of two kinds of people
1. People who don't like dogs
2. People my dogs don't like
Served me well so far, and I think I'm sticking with it.

I think you may find my post was addressing Dogs onboard not the owners.
What people or their dogs think of me is none of my business anyway.

 

[SaltyC]

I must admit I'm somewhat surprised by the venim in this thread towards dog owners.

FWIW: I tend to steer clear of two kinds of people
1. People who don't like dogs
2. People my dogs don't like
Served me well so far, and I think I'm sticking with it.

I like dogs, however I do not like owners who let dogs run free on pontoons and 'Do their Business' on the pontoons leaving for me to trail on board.

I personally would not want to be on a 32 foot boat with 3 dogs, but each to their own.

Unfortunately, once again, minority spoil it for the majority.

 

[dgadee]

I like dogs, however I do not like owners who let dogs run free on pontoons and 'Do their Business' on the pontoons leaving for me to trail on board.

I personally would not want to be on a 32 foot boat with 3 dogs, but each to their own.

Unfortunately, once again, minority spoil it for the majority.

Yep, dog owners take things so personally. But for me it is just about the fouling and the control.